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City Council Minutes
Study Session
June 28, 1999 - 4:00 p.m.
INDEX
ROLL CALL
Present: Adams, Glover, Thomson, Ridgeway, Noyes, Mayor O'Neil
Absent: Debay late (excused) /arrived at 4:50 p.m.
CURRENT BUSINESS
1. CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
In response to Council Member Adams' question regarding Agenda Item 3
(1999 Weed Abatement Program), City Manager Bludau indicated that
35 letters were sent regarding the abatement.
Regarding Agenda Item 13 (Claims Administration Services for the General
Liability Program), Council Member Adams asked what is the industry
range in dollars per claim. Mr. Bludau indicated that he will get that
information prior to the regular Council meeting.
• Regarding Agenda Item 14 (Lease Agreement with the Balboa Yacht Club),
Council Member Adams pointed out that the lease is for 3 -years with an
escalation in rent; however, there is no increase in the insurance minimums.
Mr. Bludau indicated that some type of wording could be added so that the
City could review the insurance every five years with an option to increase
the requirements.
Regarding Agenda Item 18 (Undergrounding of Overhead Utilities City
Wide), Council Member Glover stated that she will not be pulling this item
tonight but informed Council that she intends to pursue this in other ways.
In response to Mayor Pro Tem Thomson's questions regarding Agenda
Item 20 (Purchase of Replacement Voice Logging Recorder/Reproducer
System), Police Chief McDonell stated that the Police Department is the only
department with the voice logging system. He indicated that the requested
equipment is the most technologically advanced system to date and is Y2K
compliant. He reported that the current voice logging system was only
installed about four years ago but was discovered to be Y2K noncompliant.
He noted that the company has taken responsibility for this since they
indicated that the system was Y2K compliant and has given the City a large
credit for the equipment. Chief McDonell confirmed that the current
equipment was adequate, but that the new system has better data recovery
features and a larger storage media. He believed that the new equipment
should last the Police Department five to seven years.
• In response to Mayor Pro Tem Thomson's question regarding Agenda
Item 22 (Non - Linear Video and Audio Editing System), Chief McDonell
stated that the equipment is the same concept as what they currently have,
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but that the equipment they are requesting is essentially compressed into a
computer terminal rather than a room full of equipment. He noted that the
current equipment is 12 years old and the new equipment is state -of -the art.
In response to Council Member Noyes' questions regarding Agenda Item 21
(Purchase of Replacement Mobile Laptop Computers), Chief McDonell
indicated that this equipment is also the same concept as what they
currently have but that it allows them to import the video from the mobile
video system onto a window on the screen. He confirmed that they will have
the capability to access information like arrest records from their vehicles.
Chief McDonell stated that their goal is to be live with the new records
management system in October, thereby giving them access to all the local
arrest records.
In response to Council Member Ridgeway's question regarding Agenda
Item 10 (Award of Contract for C -3278 - Central Balboa Water, Sewer and
Alley Improvements and West Newport Beach Sewer Main Replacement
Phase II), Public Works Director Webb stated that construction will begin
after September 15. He explained that the City normally does not do
construction on the Peninsula during the summer, even though the award of
contract is conducted during this fiscal year. He indicated that the contract
price will be held until that time.
Mayor O'Neil noted that each Council member has their own ballot to vote
• on the Board and Commission appointments (Agenda Item 28). He
explained that Council will mark their choices and then the City Clerk will
read the final tally. He stated that Council is using this method because the
voting system does not afford Council any privacy during the moment of
selection.
2. WATER QUALITYBACK BAY OVERVIEW
Assistant to the City Manager Kiff stated that there is still a lot to look
forward to regarding the Bay and the shoreline, even after the big dredging
project ended. He noted that the Bay has more than a recreational value
and is also home to many types of wildlife and grasslife (Attachment E of the
staff report). Mr. Kiff pointed out that Attachment C of the staff report is an
attempt to show who owns which portions along the Upper Bay between the
City, The Irvine Company, the County, and the State. He believed that this
type of ownership structure does not make sense.
Council Member Glover expressed the opinion that the ownership structure
is not all bad since the City does not have the money or resources to take
over the entire Upper Bay. She indicated that she is a member of the South
Coast Air Quality Management District and that, anytime there is a complex
area, it entails a lot of complex issues with many agencies. Mr. Kiff clarified
that areas like the Dunes, which are State tidelands administered by the
County, should maybe be "swapped out" with the County for City tideland
areas and have the County back -out of the Bay tidelands administration. He
• expressed the opinion that the City should be receiving the Dunes' lease
revenue since there is no logical reason why the County still receives it. In
response to Council Member Adams' questions, Mr. Kiff confirmed that the
County is interested in discussing a big property swap with the City.
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• Mr. Kiff indicated that there are many stakeholders involved when Bay
decisions need to be made (Attachment A of the staff report) and used the
last dredging project as an example of how a project makes it to fruition. He
stated that, regarding ownership, the waters in the Upper Bay belong to the
State and is operated by the Department of Fish and Game; the County
operates the nature preserve around the State's ecological reserve; and the
State directed the County, as an operator of the State, to manage the
dredging project. Regarding funding, City and County lobbyists worked on
the legislators and ultimately received about $7 million.
Mr. Kiff stated that several permits were needed from a number of agencies.
He reported that the Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board
issues permits for any discharge of water or material into the Newport Bay
Watershed; the Department of Fish and Game issues streambed alteration
agreements with 36 different criteria to meet; the US Fish and Wildlife
Service requires a Habitat Conservation Plan to make sure that the dredging
does not upset critical habitat; the National Marine Fisheries manage
projects below the waterline; the US EPA is in charge of LA -3 which is the
spoiled dump site off of the Newport Pier; the AQMD is involved in the
project operations due to the use of diesel fuel; and the Coastal Commission
issues coastal development permits for any project along the coastal zone.
Mr. Kiff stated that the County's Construction Division managed the
dredging contractor and Larry Paul's Coastal Facilities Division did the
• overseeing, troubleshooting, and responding to citizen complaints. Mr. Kiff
explained that the US Army Corps of Engineers' dredger for the Federal
Channel in the Lower Bay was the one who discovered that the Upper Bay
dredger was dumping in the wrong location. He reported that Mr. Paul
argued for a fine so that the Corps of Engineers could use the money from
the fine to complete environmental studies required to make the LA -3
dumpsite permanent and usable.
Mr. Kiff stated that the dredging project ended April 15 because of a nesting
deadline set by the US Department of Fish and Wildlife. He reported that
the project cost over $7 million and that about 850 cubic yards of sediment
was removed. He emphasized that a basic project like this took a collective
effort of about 63 different officers in 14 different agencies.
Council Member Adams thanked Mr. Kiff for producing the staff report,
explaining that this provides him a good ongoing resource on this issue.
Mr. Kiff stated that Attachment D of the staff report explains the various
groups that are concerned about Bay /water issues. He noted that the
Watershed Executive Committee, which Council Member Glover is a
member, keeps its eyes on the total maximum daily loads (TMDL) and two
studies underway by the US Army Corps of Engineers; the Newport Bay
Coordinating Committee is an open forum where anyone can discuss
interjurisdictional issues involving the Bay; and the Harbor Committee
focuses on improving water quality in the Lower Harbor. He reported that
• the Harbor Committee has been successful in starting a network of pump -
out stations, sponsoring legislation related to enforcing Y -valve operations,
and establishing a Bay training program. Mr. Kiff reported that the Harbor
Committee has expressed a desire to refine their mission and responsibilities
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to reflect a larger focus on the entire Bay and to better educate the City and
region about water quality issues.
Mr. Kiff indicated that the major laws that are followed are summarized in
Attachment F of the staff report. He noted that a predominate law is the
Federal Clean Water Act in which the National Pollutant Discharge
Elimination System (NPDES) and the TMDL concept are included. He noted
that Attachment F of the staff report also discusses the State Porter- Cologne
Water Quality Control Act and the concept of a Regional Water Quality
Control Board.
Mr. Kiff reported that Attachment B of the staff report shows what the City
is doing to comply with the laws. He noted that the Harbor Committee is
working on a Harbor Element to the General Plan; a Special Area
Management Plan (SAMP) will guide development throughout the
watershed for wetlands and riparian areas; the Corps is conducting Upper
Bay, Newport Bay Watershed, and shoreline studies in which the City is
assisting with funding; the Department of Fish and Game is working on a
management plan for their ecological reserve; the TMDLs for fecal coliform
should be adopted by the State Board on June 30; and the State Water
Resources Control Board Toxic Hot Spots Clean -Up Plan addresses areas
within each watershed that have toxic contamination problems (there are 2
areas in Newport Beach). He also highlighted the dredging projects;
designation of the LA -3 site; and beach water quality testing standards.
• Mr. Kiff noted that there is a new law (AB 411) which passed last year that
measures water differently and will ultimately force more beach closures.
He indicated that the City probably will not see beach closures right away,
but that the City could avoid this by cleaning up the beach now and
educating people upstream as to why there is this problem. He indicated
that the problem is mostly due to urban runoff.
Regarding TMDLs, City Manager Bludau noted that limits will be set in the
total watershed area and that this will require tremendous amounts of
testing to find out when the City is noncompliant. Council Member Glover
stated that there are TMDLs because Defend the Bay asked the EPA to do
what the Clean Water Act says is supposed to be done and that the TMDLs
are new to the nation. She indicated that the Regional Water Quality
Control Board has not had the standards that the City hoped for and that
they are the enforcing agency that set the TN[DLs. She stated that she
continues to ask about set percentages of improvement but that there is no
implementation plan. Additionally, that she asked if the cities upstream
that are going to be contributing to the TMDL are going to build into their
general plan with each new project, or use a part of CEQA to determine
what the baseline is and what the contributing factors are. She stated that
there is a price affixed to these and that the City is going to be funding a
higher percentage to this than the cities upstream. She asked if the City will
end up paying an inordinate amount in order to meet the requirements or
have to close down businesses on the Bay. She asked if this will be part of
CEQA or the EIR; how the City will determine if a land use is a contributing
• factor; and how this will be enforced.
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• Council Member Ridgeway stated that the Harbor Quality Committee asked
someone from the County Water Quality Division about the source of the
TMDLs but was told that the source is unknown. He stated that Council
tried to pass an ordinance to ban the feeding of birds because they were a
cause of fecal coliform but that it was not passed because this could not be
proven. He indicated that the City has the ability to test the waters but
cannot determine a cause, and that the City will only be able to receive an
equitable sharing of costs for mitigation after a cause is determined.
Mr. Kiff stated that Mr. Bludau had DNA testing done in storm drains while
he was in the City of Coronado. He reported that Newport Beach was able to
put a line item into the State budget for $175,000 to conduct limited DNA
testing on the storm drains at the Newport Dunes, 43rd Street, 33M Street,
County /City dock property, and one other location. He stated that, if this
stays in the budget, the City will hire a contractor to test and explain what is
coming down the storm drains. Mr. Kiff reported that Coronado found that
about 60 percent of the fecal contamination was from birds. He indicated
that the City will probably have to take the lead on this because all the
upstream entities, including the Irvine Ranch Water District (IRWD), are
going to try to say that the fecal coliform inputs actually die by the time it
reaches North Star Beach. If this is the case, the Board will tell the City
that this is the City's problem. He stated that there are active discussions
regarding where and when the levels die. He reported that Dr. Jack Skinner
and Bob Caustin are participating as interested observers in the health risk
• assessment of the fecal coliform levels.
Regarding Council Member Ridgeway's question about DNA testing,
Mr. Bludau explained that Coronado took 120 water samples over a period of
24 -hours and sent them to the University of Washington where a professor
had the equipment to conduct the DNA testing. It took about
six weeks to get the results. He stated that the professor also wanted bird
and animal samples so he could try to match the DNA. Mr. Bludau noted
that the professor could not identify 50 percent of the samples; and, of the
samples he could identify, about 60 percent of them were animal. He
reported that 1 gram of fecal matter has 40 million parts in it and noted that
the State standard for water is 200 parts.
Mayor Pro Tem Thomson asked what the half -lil.e is for fecal coliform in the
Bay. Mr. Kiff indicated that he is not qualified to answer that, but that the
fecal coliform is an indicator bacteria. Mr. Bludau added that another
problem is that the State standards for chlorine are also being exceeded
because wastewater treatment plants add chlorine to kill fecal matter.
Mr. Kiff stated that Coronado set up a UV system where they blasted the
storm drains with light to kill the coliform, but indicated that this is only
effective for smaller storm drains that do not have a lot of flow.
Mr. Bludau reported that the storm drains were not the real problem in
Coronado, explaining that the Board expects all storm drains to exceed State
standards when there is rain. He added that Coronado also had
• underground water in a residential area that. was continually pumping
650,000 gallons a day and that the Board gave Coronado the incorrect
standard for them to get a permit to pump the groundwater. He noted that
the UV system is for the pumping of groundwater and is not for storm
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• events.
Council Member Adams noted that liveaboards and mooring owners were
listed in Attachment A of the staff report and that there was also a notation
for dye tablets. Mr. Kiff indicated that he does not believe the City has a dye
tablet program for liveaboards. However, this program is something that
may need to be enacted depending on the fecal coliform and TMDL results.
Dr. Jack Skinner stated that the committee looked at the dye tablet program
in the late 1980's and had the Mayor of Avalon explain their dye tablet
program. He reported that it was difficult to see the fluorescent dye in
Newport Bay during a trial run. However, the committee found that the dye
tablets were worth using as a way to periodically check if the tour boats were
polluting the water.
Dr. Skinner reported that a risk assessment study will be started next
weekend by EOA Associates from Oakland and that some of the beaches in
Newport Bay will be used for this survey. He stated that the study is being
funded by IRWD until funds can be obtained by other sources and that they
hope to determine, from a risk assessment model, the risks involved with
swimming in Newport Bay. Dr. Skinner took issue with the study, stating
that, instead of looking at the viruses that cause disease, they are looking at
something that is not related to human illness or human specific viruses. He
stated that a number of consultants have raised concerns about the
• methodology because the information is going to be based on information
that will not stand up to scientific scrutiny.
Dr. Skinner noted that the water quality has improved in the Bay over the
years and that one just needs to look at the last three weeks of water reports
which indicate that most of the beaches have been extremely good except for
the five beaches that are close to storm drains or the ones that the Health
Department deemed a cause for trouble. Dr. Skinner noted that Heal the
Bay graded a majority of the City beaches with an A +.
In response to Council Member Glover's statements, Dr. Skinner believed
that the Board has their own agenda to meet their basin plan. He stated
that the Health Department depends on the ocean plan and will be checking
for coliform for three different indicator bacteria at all testing locations in
the Bay. He indicated that the Health Department will close down a beach if
it exceeds standards for any one of the three indicator bacteria. He assured
that, even though there may be more beach closures, it does not mean that
the public will be at greater risk.
Regarding the life of bacteria, Dr. Skinner reported that this is discussed in
terms of "P -90" which is how long it takes before 90 percent die off. For
e -coli in fresh water, the P -90 is about 26 to 28 hours; and, in salt water, the
P -90 is as short as 6 to 8 hours. He indicated that coliform lasts longer when
there is no sunshine and the water is colder.
Bob Caustin, 471 Old Newport Boulevard, Defend the Bay, stated that he
met last week with Orange County Sanitation District's five top
management personnel who told him that fecal coliform can last up to
30 days when underwater and out of sunlight. He stated that he has been at
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meetings with other cities who indicated that their council does not consider
Newport Bay a beneficial use to their citizens and that they are there to do
as little as required by the TMDL.
Mr. Caustin also took issue with the upcoming study and stated that Defend
the Bay was initially given permission from IRWD to tape the Health
Advisory Committee meeting regarding the study so that he could have
other experts review this issue. However, when he arrived, he was
prohibited from taping the meeting. He expressed concern regarding their
approach to assessing who uses the Bay and that they proposed to take the
water samples between 6 a.m. and 3 p.m. He believed that the Committee
will be making the results so that the TMDL will be declared a success at the
same time the Health Department will be closing beaches.
In response to Council Member Ridgeway's questions, Mr. Caustin stated
that he is taking issue with the study because it is not being reviewed. He
believed that having a tape of the meeting could be valuable to Council and
reiterated that he had experts willing to review the tape and make
comments. He added that he does have a problem with the intentions of
those involved with this. Mr. Caustin believed that the study will not be up
to the current law's level of reduction and will allow them to make a change
to the basin plan.
In response to Council Member Ridgeway's question on how to make the
• study more scientific, Mr. Caustin stated that the information could be made
public; it could be reviewed by scientists that the City and Defend the Bay
may have; and a critical review of the information could be conducted at
every step. Mr. Caustin believed that the City can assist in the process by
requesting that all the meetings be scheduled and made public; have the
subcommittee meetings more centralized and recorded; and have someone
attend the meetings. Council Member Ridgeway requested that Mr. Caustin
provide that information to Mr. Kiff so that this could be taken up at the
Harbor Quality Committee.
Mayor O'Neil pointed out that there are suggested recommendations in the
staff report. Mr. Kiff stated that he hopes that all the recommendations will
be approved and reviewed the recommendations.
Motion by Council Member Ridgeway to a) adopt Resolution No. 99 -45
approving the recommendations of the Harbor Quality Citizens Advisory
Committee to amend its mission and responsibilities; b) direct staff to
continue to lobby for State and Federal funding for dredging, TMDLs, Toxic
Hot Spots, and more; c) direct staff to cooperate with local volunteer groups,
the County of Orange, and the Department of Fish and Game to better
publicize the resource value of Newport Bay; d) direct the Harbor Quality
Citizens Advisory Committee to plan and develop a resident, visitor, and Bay
user education plan that will reduce inputs to the Bay that impair water
quality; e) direct staff to send a letter to Supervisor Wilson that requests
information about the possible reorganization of County tidelands and
• moorings, City and County properties, and other County and City harbor
responsibilities; and f) direct staff to further research the funding and local
interest for a tidepool program at Big Corona and a kelp reforestation plan
off the coast.
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Council Member Glover expressed the opinion that she does not
has enough information to approve recommendations a and f.
Council Member Ridgeway amended his motion to a) adopt Resolution
No. 99 -45 approving the recommendations of the Harbor Quality Citizens
Advisory Committee to amend its mission and responsibilities; b) direct staff
to continue to lobby for State and Federal funding for dredging, TMDLs,
Toxic Hot Spots, and more; c) direct staff to cooperate with local volunteer
groups, the County of Orange, and the Department of Fish and Game to
better publicize the resource value of Newport ]Bay; and d) direct the Harbor
Quality Citizens Advisory Committee to plan and develop a resident, visitor,
and Bay user education plan that will reduce inputs to the Bay that impair
water quality.
Without objection, the motion carried by acclamation.
Council Member Debay noted that recommendation e is only requesting that
a letter asking for information about the possible reorganization be sent to
Supervisor Wilson. She believed that the City needs to start exploring the
possibility at some point. Mr. Kiff stated that he was careful regarding the
wording of the letter and that the County indicated that they could look into
this if the City requests them to. Mr. Bludau stated that the letter does not
commit the City to anything and basically requests enough information so
that staff can come back with a recommendation at a later date. He noted
• that he would like himself and staff to take a look at the way the City
manages its tidelands, its leases, and its responsibilities. He agreed that, if
the City is in a position to be fined because of some regulation, it would
behoove the City to try to have as much authority as possible.
Motion by Council Member Noyes to e) direct staff to send a letter to
Supervisor Wilson that requests information about the possible
reorganization of County tidelands and moorings, City and County
properties, and other County and City harbor responsibilities; and f) direct
staff to furthar research the funding and local interest for a tidepool program
at Big Corona and a kelp reforestation plan off the coast.
Stating that she will not support the motion, Council Member Glover
believed that Council needs to look at how big it wants the organization to be
since this would entail enormous change. Noting that Council is dealing
with airport issues, annexation, and an initiative, she asked where Council's
priorities are.
With Council Member Glover dissenting, the motion carried.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he is the Chairman of the Harbor
Quality Committee and that they have been focusing on education and
emphasized how important it will be to create an educational program for
the entire City. He expressed the opinion that everyone in the City should
be an environmentalist when it comes to the Bay.
• Regarding recommendation e and the City considering taking over harbor
patrolling, Mayor Pro Tem Thomson expressed the opinion that this would
be a great benefit to the citizens since there currently is not enough
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coordination between the Harbor Patrol and
Council Member Ridgeway stated that the Harbor Quality Committee
invited Harbor Master Marty Kasules to their meeting and that he is
cooperating with all the agencies within the City. Further, a coordinated
agenda is trying to be developed between the Police Department, Fire and
Marine Department, and Harbor Patrol.
PUBLIC COMMENTS —None.
ADJOURNMENT — 5:32 p.m.
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The agenda for the Study Session was posted on June 23, 1999, at 3:30 p.m.
on the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of Newport
Beach Administration Building.
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Recording Secretary
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