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City Council Minutes
Study Session
October 25, 1999 - 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
INDEX
Present: Adams, Glover, Ridgeway, Noyes, Mayor O'Neil
Absent: Debay & Thomson (excused)
1. CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Council Member Glover asked for clarification on Item 3, Santiago Drive
Speed Limit. She noted the list of key actions in the Expanded Santiago
Drive Implementation Plan, which included the development of a
comprehensive traffic calming program to be used throughout the City.
Council Member Glover stated that such a program would take four to five
years to develop and she did not remember it being a part of the Council's
action at the previous meeting. Public Works Director Webb stated that the
• concept of the program was to put together a list of the items that could be
used for traffic calming, including the criteria that would be used to evaluate
various neighborhoods, if the need arose. He clarified that this would
provide Citywide criteria and would not include actual studies of individual
neighborhoods. City Manager Bludau read from Volume 53, Page 19 of the
September 27, 1999, minutes, and stated that the motion does include
direction to proceed with the Santiago Drive Implementation Plan. Council
Member Glover confirmed with City Manager Bludau that the Citywide
program would not interfere with the Santiago process. Council Member
Adams stated his intent in making the motion was to develop a
comprehensive list of traffic calming measures, including when and where
they are appropriate. He stated that this would provide criteria for when
other parts of the City are looking for traffic calming measures. He added
that the most important part of the motion was to enact measures in the
Santiago Drive area that would be appropriate for other similar streets in
the City, and not give the area special treatment.
Referring to Item 10, Agreement for Construction of Improvements at 3619
Ocean Boulevard, Council Member Ridgeway asked why only 50% of the
estimated cost of the improvements is being set -aside in sureties. Public
Works Director Webb stated that the improvements are not entirely offsite,
and that the retaining wall is being built in order to allow the structure to be
occupied.
City Clerk Harkless clarified for the City Council that for Item 15,
• Appointments to the Harbor Quality Citizens Advisory Committee, the
District 1 appointment is Nancy Gardner, not Susan Gardner as indicated on
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2. MARINAPARK HOTEL PROPOSAL.
City Manager Bludau stated that the item is before the City Council because
the City received a development proposal from Sutherland Talla Hospitality,
and he felt that a Study Session would be the appropriate way to introduce
it. City Manager Bludau stated that his intent is for the City Council to
focus on the policy issues and the process for looking at the proposal, rather
than the details of the proposal itself. He stated that, for this reason, the
staff report includes information on the background and use of the property,
as well as the status of the current leases. City Manager Bludau referred to
the information in the staff report about the mobile home park, the
American Legion, City Council Policy F -7 (Income Property), the Marinapark
Revenue Study, and the history of the prior Council authorizations and
action by the City regarding the property site. He also noted the six possible
alternatives listed in the staff report that the Council might want to
consider.
Stephen Sutherland, Principal Partner, Sutherland Talla Hospitality, stated
that he has spent ten months looking at options for resort development on
the Marinapark site. He stated that the proposal submitted to the City
describes a redevelopment of the property into a 156 -room five star resort to
be operated by Regent International Hotels. Mr. Sutherland stated that he
was available to answer any questions.
Tom Hyans, Central Newport Beach Community Association ( CNBCA),
stated that he spoke with Mr. Sutherland regarding the proposal in July. He
stated that the CNBCA has, for years, supported the long -term renewal of
the American Legion and mobile home park leases. He stated that the
CNBCA has reviewed and discussed the conversion of the property to public
use for recreation, such as described in the Marinapark Planning Study
dated June 20, 1972, but has never adopted a policy to support the
conversion of the property to full recreational use. The CNBCA also opposes
the increase of hotel capacities and new hotel construction within its
boundaries or near the beach or other recreational areas of the Peninsula.
Mr. Hyans added that the CNBCA also opposes any change in use in the
City -owned area between 15th and 19tb Streets, on the bayside of Balboa
Boulevard. He stated that he personally remembers that Sections D and E
in the mobile home park leases, as mentioned in the staff report, were
included only to circumvent liability for compensation to the lessees. He
concluded by stating that he feels that the proposed project location would
upset the fragile balance of the residential and public neighborhoods in a
negative way.
Paul Curtis, Commander, American Legion Newport Harbor Post 291, stated
that many years ago, the American Legion traded a piece of property with
the City for the lease they currently have. He stated that, although he
recognizes that the current City Council may not be legally bound by the
terms and conditions of the original transaction, he wanted to present the
American Legion's position. Mr. Curtis stated that Post 291 has 2,000
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• members, a ladies auxiliary with 503 members, the Sons of the American
Legion with 350 members, and the American Legion Yacht Club with 766
members. He stated that the Post attracts quality members and is the
second largest post in the State of California. He stated that the Post was
recently honored as being the most generous Post in giving to the needs of
disabled veterans, and that they strive to be a good neighbor in a number of
ways. Mr. Curtis mentioned the fundraisers held at the facility, the sharing
of the use of the facility, the hosting of disabled veterans who are otherwise
bedridden, the Old Glory Character Boat Parade, the law and order
program, and the sailing program for the visually impaired. Mr. Curtis
asked that the City Council commence negotiations for the long -term
renewal of the American Legion lease at the current location. He concluded
by stating that Post 291 is ready to work with the City in creating a more
desirable community.
Val Skoro, 1601 Bayadere Terrace, Vice Chairman, Parks, Beaches &
Recreation Commission (PB &R Commission), stated that in October of 1997,
the PB &R Commission voted to recommend to the City Council that the
area, including Marinapark but excluding the American Legion, be used for
recreational purposes at the expiration of the leases on the site. He said he
understands that the City needs to generate revenue, but he wanted to point
out that the PB &R Commission has provided its recommendation on the
matter.
Peter Tarr, P. O. Box 2231, Newport Beach, stated that the Peninsula and
• the West Newport areas are already crowded areas and difficult to access.
He stated that the upcoming lease expirations provide the City with the
opportunity to provide additional public access to the bay and the
recreational facilities. He stated that he believes that the Girl Scout House
and the American Legion should be left at the site. He added that he does
not feel that a hotel is an appropriate use of the site due to the present
traffic situation, and could be placed elsewhere on the Peninsula. Mr. Tarr
concluded by stating that eliminating public access to the area would be a
poor decision.
Cary Lowe, Attorney, Jenkens & Gilchrist, 12100 Wilshire Blvd.,
representing the Marinapark Homeowners Association, stated that the
Association recognizes that the City will consider other uses for the site. He
stated, however, that he's surprised with the process that is taking place.
Mr. Lowe stated that until there is a resolution of the possible tidelands
status, it's questionable about what uses will be permitted. He said that the
policies of the State Lands Commission and the Coastal Commission would
disallow an exclusive luxury hotel on the site with beach access limited to
guests of the hotel, if any of the site is determined to be tidelands. Mr. Lowe
stated that, in the meantime, it does not justify consideration of the current
proposal, which is only showing pretty pictures and no backup regarding
financial commitment. He added that the City's own policy provides for a
competitive open bid process when looking at a proposal for leasing City
property. He stated that he also foresees strong environmental opposition to
• the hotel proposal. He said that it is critical to decide what to do with the
current tenants, regardless of what use of the site is decided upon. He
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• suggested extending the leases for the current users of the property.
Mr. Lowe concluded by stating that the City can certainly continue looking
at alternatives for the site, but it should table any particular focus on the
hotel proposal.
Council Member Ridgeway confirmed that the City cannot take any definite
action for the site until the determination is made by the State Lands
Commission, but he asked Mr. Lowe why the City wouldn't want to request
proposals from all of the current lessees. Mr. Lowe responded that a broader
evaluation of future uses for the site is not a waste of time, but it must be
recognized that it all depends upon what the State Lands Commission
decides. He additionally disagreed with the staff report's reference to
residential use not being allowed at the site if it is determined to be
tidelands, and said there are other locations in the state that have mobile
home parks on similar trust properties. He said the issue is how the public
access is maximized on these lease trust lands.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he had hoped the current meeting
would only consist of a presentation on the historical and current status of
the property. He confirmed with Mr. Lowe that he feels the City should look
at proposals from the current lessees. Council Member Ridgeway said that
considering proposals while the State Lands Commission is making its
determination helps to reduce the uncertainty of what will happen to the
property in the future. Mr. Lowe agreed and suggested that the current
leases be extended for that reason. He said that the Association will want to
• participate in the broader look at uses for the site.
Joanne Walker, 307 Balboa Island, stated her concern for any project that
would bring more people from outside the City onto the Peninsula when it is
already so overcrowded. She stated that Newport Beach is a beautiful place
and should be more residential - friendly. She said that she would be willing
to pay higher taxes to save her privacy and to keep the streets and beaches
from being overcrowded. Ms. Walker stated that the current uses at the site
should remain and increased revenues should be looked for elsewhere.
John McDaniel, 1770 W. Balboa Blvd., stated his opposition to a hotel being
built on the American Legion site. He said there is a lot of history at the
American Legion and it honors the people who served our country in war.
He said the location includes a memorial hating all the members who have
been given the Congressional Medal of Honor. He said the site also includes
the American Legion Yacht Club, which is the only one in the world and has
been recognized by the Southern California Yachting Association as the
Yacht Club of the Year, four of the last five years. He said the American
Legion has been a good neighbor and prior City Councils have recognized its
importance. He said it is unacceptable to move the American Legion from its
current site.
Martha Durkee, Balboa, stated that if the proposed hotel is constructed, it
will be at a cost to the Newport Beach taxpayers and residents. She stated
• that the playground, the tennis courts and the bay beach would become
unavailable to the public. She said that the mobile home park tenants have
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offered to pay higher rent, while keeping the area clean, welcoming the
public's use of the beach, having a low crime rate and adding few car trips to
the area's roadways. She said that the American Legion has offered their
site for public meetings and has been a good member of the community.
Ms. Durkee expressed her frustration with the traffic complaints in the City
and the need to welcome the visitor to the City, while forgetting the
residents. She concluded by saying that facilities that serve the citizens
should be considered as being the best use of the site. She said that a hotel
won't honor our veterans or provide any service to the residents.
Stewart Berkshire, 1770 W. Balboa Blvd., stated that he has been involved
with the issue since 1992 or 1993, when the renewal of the mobile home park
lease was discussed. He said that the lease negotiated in 1985 was at fair
market value, with provisions for increases each year in connection with the
cost of living. He stated that, two years ago, the residents offered to enter
into a new lease with the City. And, the residents, at their own expense,
conducted an analysis of rental properties of mobile home parks around the
bay and determined fair market value. He said that nothing has been done
since, pending the decision of the State Lands Commission. He said that the
Keyser Marston study concluded that a hotel would produce the most
revenue to the City for the site, per square foot. Mr. Berkshire stated that
using square feet is misleading and a statistical lie. He concluded by stating
that the income to the City from the mobile home park lease is guaranteed,
and not dependent on the economic success of an individual enterprise.
• Council Member Noyes asked about the rate increase offered by the mobile
home park residents. Mr. Berkshire explained that he personally offered the
City $5,000 in August or September of 1997, if the City would start
negotiations. He said that the fair market study done by the residents
concluded that $5,000 was the additional rent the City would realize per
year if the mobile home park rents were brought up to fair market value. He
further confirmed that the rent offered by the residents at the time would've
brought the City $1 million per year.
Mildred Litke, Harbor Island Drive, stated that she sees several problems
with a hotel being built at the site. She said that the number one issue is
traffic and parking, which would be made worse by a hotel. She said that a
hotel is not a viable economic option, and cited the four properties that she'd
contacted earlier in the day and their high rate of vacancies, including some
which were half empty. She said that the mobile home park revenue is
guaranteed. Ms. Litke stated that there is also the philosophical issue in
deciding if the City wants to cater to its residents or become a commercial
entity. She said that she would like to continue enjoying the bay beach.
Mr. Sutherland responded to several of the statements made by the
speakers. He stated that he also contacted several hotels in the area, and
said that the Four Seasons, with room rates beginning at $390 per night,
was 100% occupied for the upcoming weekend. He stated that the Ritz
Carlton, which he considers would be the proposed hotel's main competition
• and charges $650 per night for a standard room with ocean view, is also
100% occupied for the upcoming weekend. He said that the Hyatt Regency
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• was also nearly full the weekend prior.
Mr. Sutherland stated that he has met with representatives of the American
Legion and is very understanding of their situation. He has offered to
negotiate with them in moving them to a different location, which would
provide a structure, either existing or new, of at least the same size as the
current structure and would also be located on the waterfront.
Mr. Sutherland stated that the mobile home park has only fifteen Newport
Beach residents that live there fulltime. He said that the property has the
ability to generate at least $2.8 million, annually. He said a hotel could
provide funds that could be used to enhance the services offered by the City.
Mr. Sutherland also clarified that the proposed project would rebuild the
tennis courts, double their number and that they would remain available for
free use to all residents of Newport Beach. He said that the existing
playground would be moved to a site adjacent to the Girl Scout House, and it
also would be improved, enlarged and remain open to the public. He
concluded that the proposal does benefit the residents of Newport Beach, it
maintains access to the property and provides revenue to the City. He asked
that the City Council approve Option #2 in the staff report, analyzing and
considering the Sutherland Talla proposal.
Virginia Herberts, Balboa Peninsula Point Association, stated that the
Association's board supports the continuation of the current leases and uses
• of the property. She stated that they are opposed to the use of the property
for a hotel.
Council Member Ridgeway clarified with City Manager Bludau that the City
Council is only being asked to provide direction at the current meeting, and
not take formal action. City Manager Bludau stated that the City Council
could decide to take more definite action, if it desired. Council Member
Ridgeway expressed his concern regarding prior City Council discussions
and the decision to not take action at study sessions.
Council Member Adams stated that he did not see any problem with the City
Council providing staff with guidance, but that he would be concerned with
making policy decisions at study sessions. He added that he was
uncomfortable considering the current proposal on its own, and that the
State Lands Commission ruling needs to comes first. Council Member
Adams said that the issue is one of land use, not just of revenue. He stated
that he thinks the City should first decide what land use would be
appropriate for the site and then solicit proposals for that type of use. He
said the process should include the Planning Commission, and hearing its
recommendation for the land use, or uses, on the site.
Council Member Noyes stated that everything will still be held up until the
State Lands Commission makes its ruling. He suggested that maybe the
City should focus on receiving that ruling first.
• Council Member Ridgeway disagreed with Council Member Adams that the
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• issue is one of land use. He stated that he sees it as a policy decision issue,
and disagrees that the Planning Commission should make the land use
recommendation. Council Member Ridgeway stated that he has been
attempting to clean up the Peninsula while, at the same time, rejuvenating
it. He said that he doesn't feel that a hotel in that location would generate
the kind of income suggested in the proposal. Council Member Ridgeway
thinks that proposals from all lessees should be requested and more than
revenue should be considered, although he also understands that the City
needs to look at ways to create income. He said the City Council will
eventually have to make the tough decision of what to do with the property,
and he has had several people ask that the City Council do what's best for
the Peninsula. He added that since there is resistance to two -story mobile
home parks, the residents of Marinapark should make their proposal on the
basis of a single story mobile home park. He said that all of the various land
use options need to be looked at, and the people who will be affected by the
decision need to be considered. He concluded by stating that it is a very
complicated issue.
Council Member Glover agreed with Council Member Ridgeway's comments
about putting the issue into local context and how it affects the residents on
the Peninsula. She stated that the Coast Highway /Newport Boulevard
intersection is the heaviest traveled intersection in the County and in her
district. She stated that for this reason, her interest in the Peninsula and
the type of traffic that it attracts has increased. Council Member Glover said
that everyone always complains about too much traffic and not enough
• parking, but that she won't know what impact a hotel would have until all of
the facts are presented. She said that the City Council must consider
revenue when making these types of decisions. She suggested that the City
Council direct staff to proceed with Options 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the staff report.
She said this will give everyone the right to bring forward a proposal, and
give the City an opportunity to see what the effects of the various options
would be. She said that she's not certain that the decision by the State
Lands Commission will greatly affect what is decided for the property and
that the Coastal Commission is concerned about public access to the beaches,
which a hotel property could provide.
Mayor O'Neil stated his support for Options 2, 3, 4 and 5; which would direct
staff to analyze and consider the Sutherland Talla proposal, request
proposals from other lessees, request proposals from other potential
developers, and consider them all together. Mayor O'Neil also agreed that
the State Lands Commission issue should possibly be agendized, but pointed
out that the City has already gone on record to support the uplands
interpretation. He agreed further that residential uses have been allowed on
tidelands and could be done. Mayor O'Neil concluded by stating that there is
a lot of flexibility in what can be done and the City should look at all the
various options, and then make the decision based on what is best for the
community and what is best for the City in the future. He said it may be
determined that what is currently at the site may remain, but the City won't
know if that's the best choice until all of the possible uses have been looked
• at. He said that if the State Lands Commission determines that the site is
tidelands, it may end up in court. He said the issue is very confusing and he
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• is totally open minded about what happens at the site, whether it is public
open space or providing more revenue to the City. Mayor O'Neil stated that
while the various proposals are being looked at, he feels that the mobile
home park lease should be extended for one year as is being proposed for the
American Legion at the evening meeting (Item 13). He knows the final
decision on the property will be a tough one, as it always is when trying to
balance economic interests with quality of life.
City Manager Bludau confirmed with Mayor O'Neil that the Sutherland
Talla proposal would be analyzed and considered with all of the other
proposals, after they come in. He continued by stating that staff will request
proposals from other lessees, as well as other potential developers.
3. BALBOA PIER PARKING LOT REDESIGN
Public Works Director Webb introduced Tony Brine, Senior Civil Engineer,
to give the presentation on the process that the City has gone through in
looking at the Balboa Pier parking lot area.
Mr. Brine stated that he would provide a summary of the report that was
prepared by Austin -Foust Associates. He stated that the goals of the study
were to look at the existing parking lot and determine if a redesign could be
done to improve vehicle circulation and pedestrian access. He stated that
the goals also included determining if the number of parking spaces could be
increased, if a bus layover area could be provided, and if the landscaping
• could be improved.
Mr. Brine stated that the process incorporated three public workshops to
solicit input from residents and business owners in the Balboa area. He
stated that seven alternative plans were developed and reviewed, and that
he would go through each of the alternatives.
Mr. Brine provided an overhead illustration of the existing parking lot plan,
and pointed out the inefficient use of space. He then showed Alternative 1,
which was recommended as a result of a study done in 1991. He said there
is a net gain of 84 parking spaces with Alternative 1.
Council Member Glover confirmed with Mr. Brine that one of the goals of the
study was to look at potential ways to increase the number of parking spaces
in the lot. It was further confirmed that the parking spaces, both inside and
outside the lot, would be available to visitors of both the beach and the
village area.
Council Member Ridgeway stated that he has read the staff report, that the
matter has been reviewed by PROP (Ad Hoc Committee to Promote the
Revitalization of the Balboa Peninsula) and that he favors looking more
closely at Alternatives 1 and 6A. He stated that unless any of the council
members disagree, he did not need to hear the history of Alternatives 2, 3, 4
or 5 at the current meeting.
• Council Member Noyes agreed and stated that it has been a thorough two-
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year process in developing the alternatives.
Assistant City Manager Wood stated that the BPPAC (Balboa Peninsula
Planning Advisory Committee) study resulted in recommendations to
increase the parking spaces in the Balboa lot to offset the spaces that may be
lost in other nearby locations to accommodate landscaping improvements.
She said this would assist the City in its presentations to the Coastal
Commission.
Council Member Glover stated that nothing is accomplished by merely
increasing parking spaces on the Peninsula, but can understand the Coastal
Commission reason.
Council Member Noyes confirmed that PROP has been sensitive to just
increasing parking on the Peninsula.
Mr. Brine stated that an issue that did come out of the public workshops was
if landscaping opportunities in the Balboa lot should be replaced with
additional parking spaces. He said that the Parking Summary information
in the Alternative 1 diagram shows a net gain of 49 parking spaces but an
additional 35 could be obtained, for a total of 84 as mentioned earlier, if the
landscaping opportunities were not chosen. Mr. Brine said that the
consensus in the public workshops was to include the landscaping
opportunities. He said that Alternative 1 was one of the alternatives favored
• in the workshops. He said it provides for bus layover, which would include
space for tour buses as well as OCTA (Orange County Transportation
Authority) buses. He said the space would be outside of the pay lot and large
enough for four to six buses.
Mr. Brine then displayed Alternative 6A and stated that it was another
alternative favored in the public workshops. He said it was developed as
part of a concept submitted by the Theatre Arts Center and increases the
metered parking lot area to provide for more parking outside of the pay lot,
which would service the village more. He said the alternative also provides a
bus layover area. Mr. Brine stated that the cost of Alternative 6A would be
$663,000. He said that existing funding in the budget for the project is
$430,000, and that additional funds may be available in the offstreet parking
fund. He added that the net gain in parking spaces with the alternative is
40 spaces, if the landscaping opportunities were not chosen.
Council Member Noyes asked what the timeframe would be for completing
the project if Alternative 6A is chosen. Public Works Director Webb stated
that the design process and Coastal permit process would have to be done
first. He said that construction could begin in the Fall of 2000, with
completion prior to the following summer.
Council Member Noyes stated his concurrence with Council Member
Ridgeway's choice of Alternative 6A.
• Council Member Adams confirmed with Mr. Brine the location of the pay
booth in the lot. Mr. Brine stated that Alternative 6A currently provides for
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a single exit lane, but that a traffic queuing study was not done. He said
that there is room to add a second exit lane, if desired. Council Member
Adams suggested that two exit lanes be provided.
Council Member Adams inquired about the absence of a stop light at
Washington Street and the reason for having a stop light at Palm Street.
Transportation)Development Services Manager Rich Edmonston explained
that the signal at Palm Street was put in because of the high rate of
pedestrian accidents in the area. He added that the stop light at Main Street
was put in due to the high pedestrian traffic, which had previously limited
vehicle movement.
Council Member Adams asked if the buses in the bus layover area would be
allowed to idle. Mr. Brine stated that the intent would be to disallow idling,
and is one of the reasons for adding the bus layover area. Council Member
Adams asked if the City could prohibit the idling. He cited examples of how
obnoxious the noise and smell can be, and said he could not support the plan
if it allowed the buses to idle. City Manager Bludau said that he knows of
other cities that do cite for idling buses. Mr. Brine stated that the residents
favored adding the bus layover area because it may stop the buses from
parking in front of their homes.
Council Member Noyes added that the idling is currently done because the
buses are parked illegally. Mr. Brine said the buses also idle to keep the air
conditioning going.
Mayor O'Neil summarized by stating that the direction from the City
Council is for staff to proceed with Alternative 6A. City Manager Bludau
confirmed that the City Council was recommending that the alternative be
with the additional 40 spaces option.
Council Member Ridgeway pointed out for Council Member Adams that all of
the alternatives include a bus layover area.
Virginia Herberts, Balboa Peninsula Point Association, stated that the
Association favored Alternative 6A because it provided more parking closer
to the village and it moved the buses away from the condominiums and
storefronts.
Council Member Noyes requested that staff also include some type of action
in the plan to deter the buses from idling.
Mayor O'Neil confirmed with the members of the City Council that there was
concurrence in directing staff to proceed with the preparation of plans,
specifications and engineer's final estimate for redesigning the Balboa Pier
parking lot in general conformance with Alternative 6A.
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