HomeMy WebLinkAbout03/25/2003 - Study SessionCITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
City Council Minutes
Study Session
March 25, 2003 - 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Heffernan, Ridgeway, Adams (arrived at 4:10 p.m.), Webb, Nichols,
Mayor Bromberg
Absent: Proctor
CURRENT BUSINESS
1. CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Regarding Item 7 (Grant Agreement with the California State Library), Council
Member Heffernan asked if there is a deadline to start and complete the
construction. He also requested clarification about the contingency in Section 10
and asked whether the economic times could affect the State's ability to uphold
the grant.
Regarding Item ra (Playground Equipment Purchase), Council Member Nichols
believed that the playground project at the Grant Howald Park was completed.
City Manager Bludau reported that the swings that are currently there are for a
different age group, but this project is for younger children.
2. CORONA DEL MAR STATE BEACH IMPROVEMENTS.
Assistant City Manager Kiff reported that the Corona del Mar (CdM) State
Beach is a California State Park owned facility that is operated by the City and
stated that the City has an operating agreement with them that expires in 2035.
He indicated that some of the structures that were built from 1950 to 1970 were
taken down recently because concrete pieces were falling off them. He stated
that the City applied for and received about $480,000 in Proposition 12 grants.
Further, $1 million from the American Trader Oil Spill Settlement has been
directed to this project. He indicated that the consultants think the City will
need about $1.7 million to complete the project as envisioned. Mr. Kiff reported
that a survey was mailed October 2001 to everyone living coastward of Coast
Highway. He stated that about 180 responses were received back which
generally indicated that they do not want a full- service restaurant there. He
added that they also met with City personnel who use the facility to determine
their ideas and constraints, received input from Council Member Nichols, and
presented the Parks, Beaches & Recreation Commission (PB &R) with a similar
presentation on March 4. He indicated that they held a noticed public workshop
on March 10. He reported that they would like Council's input on the design
concepts and will be coming back to PB &R and Council in May for concept
approval. He stated that people can find out more information on the City's
website (www.city.newport - beach.ca.us) under "general information', then
"Corona del Mar State Beach ". He added that there is also an email link to send
comments.
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Roberta Jorgensen, Robbins Jorgensen Christopher, stated that the process so
far has involved a lot of listening which they have tried to incorporate into an
early concept. She stated that they will be asking Council for comments and
recommendations since they have more ideas than money, and also requested
Council's help in prioritizing the project. She utilized a PowerPoint
presentation and highlighted the design objectives. She noted that they have
not designed any architecture at this point. She reported that, after the public
workshops, it was decided to set aside consideration of changing the number or
size of the fire pits and relocating the volleyball courts since important decisions
needed to be made first. She stated that they are recommending that those
decisions be addressed separately so they do not hold up the project. She added
that there is an issue with the Coastal Commission and their view of what is
important for fire pits and volleyball courts that also needs to be discussed in a
separate discussion. She stated that they do not assume the beach will become
less popular or be used to any greater degree than it is today since this is mostly
controlled by parking and they are not changing the number of parking spaces.
Ms. Jorgensen utilized aerials to show the existing beach facilities and proposed
facilities. She stated that the existing building is about 4,000 square feet, but
the current proposal is for a 4,597 square foot building. She indicated that the
shade structures that were falling apart were about 5,000 square feet, but they
are proposing a smaller structure that will probably be attached to the building
around the restrooms. She stated that the lineal frontage is currently 215 feet,
but it would be half that in the proposed scheme. She noted that the paving and
walkways do not include parking, and added that they are proposing to increase
the landscaped area. Ms. Jorgensen highlighted the square footages for the
proposed restrooms, lifeguard substation, the Marine Life Refuse Supervisor's
office, tidepool storage, and concessions building.
Jason Briscoe, Robbins Jorgensen Christopher, reiterated that they have held
several meetings and workshops to present a number of schemes. He stated
that one of the comments they have heard is that the grass area is a precious
area, is used by the kids when they tour the tidepools, and people like to use it
when they are at the beach. He indicated that their plan takes the limited grass
area and spreads it out across the beachfront. He noted that there is a fair
amount of raised planters that are not accessible, so they are proposing to use
those areas for lawn -grade turf. He added that the current sidewalk along the
beach is narrow and there is an ankle -high wall that is falling down, but the
proposed walkway will be wider, have varying widths, can accommodate more
people, and the grass area can function as a staging area for the tidepool groups.
Mr. Briscoe reported that they are proposing to relocate many of the existing
trees and add a few new palms. He stated that the two side buildings would
have restrooms and outside showers, and the building in the center will house
the lifeguard station and the concession area with a small tower. He added that
they also envision integrating shade structures with the concessions area. He
noted that, in one of the schemes, the lifeguard facilities are modular so it can
be brought down for seasonal use. He stated that this will reduce the number of
permanent buildings on the site to preserve views. Mr. Briscoe stated that the
reconfigured entry drive is being proposed due to public safety issues. He
believed that the benefit of moving the parking attendant south is that the
queuing space will be increased and some of the traffic problems will be
eliminated as best as possible. Further, the intersection will be cleaned up so
the permanent residents have a much easier time. Ms. Jorgensen added that
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cost information is included in the PowerPoint presentation.
Bruce Schweitzer stated that he has played volleyball at CdM for about
20 years. He indicated that the problem with the fire pits is that the smoke
travels from left to right. He believed that Scheme C is the best option since it
moves the volleyball courts to the end of the beach. He indicated that
volleyballs can get lost over the seawall if they are situated near it.
Gordon Kilmer stated that he has been the concessionaire at CdM for many
years. He believed that two restrooms are necessary and that two concession
areas probably are too. He indicated that there is tremendous pressure during
the summer weekends and stated that it needs to be safe.
Laura Dietz stated that she attended the March 10 unveiling of the proposed
changes. She indicated that she is pleased with the proposal; however,
expressed concern about public safety, noting that there was a sexual assault in
the women's facility sometime within the last two years. She stated that the
design can be an impediment and asked for some consideration for safety be
implemented in the design.
Council Member Nichols believed that the original concept has many
advantages over the proposal. He indicated that people believe that a larger
staging area for cars will create traffic problems and suggested having a shorter
staging area. He stated that the beach has been developed over 40 years into its
current configuration and has been worked on by the various groups, believing
that it has worked out well. He indicated that he does not believe that there is
any statistical evidence or a reason for a lifeguard tower that will block the
views of all the homes in the lower area. Further, there are three lifeguard
stations for only 1/3 of a mile of beach and there is no bad surf or reason for that
many lifeguard stations. He indicated that the original configuration with
changing rooms makes sense. He noted that 70% of the people responding want
things to stay basically the same and stated that the City needs to listen.
Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway believed that this is an opportunity for master
planning. He indicated that there is a problem with balancing the interests of
tourists and the neighborhoods. He noted that the winds generally move
westerly and asked that this be taken into consideration when looking at the
operational aspects of the project. He added that nice fascia is appropriate for
the architecture. Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway stated that the City should look at
Huntington Beach's restroom spacing and its concessionaires. He expressed his
support for lifeguard presence and the building, adding that it is critical to this
beach because of the amount of use it gets. Regarding the parking lot, he stated
that it is completely asphalted and suggested that islands be installed and more
palm trees be planted to soften it, similar to the Balboa Pier.
Council Member Adams asked why changing rooms are not being recommended
and why there is no increase in the size of the men's restrooms. He indicated
that he likes the increase in the lawn area and agreed with the lifeguard
presence. Ms. Jorgensen stated that they worked on the restroom count with
staff, but they can revisit it. She added that they did not receive comments that
changing rooms were still in demand.
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Council Member Heffernan asked what the revenue and expenses are for the
site, how many users there were last year, and whether there is potential for
having a temporary double parking kiosk so twice as many people can be
assisted or divert them into the two parking fields.
3. PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFFING LEVELS.
Planning Director Temple reported that, as a supplemental request, the
Planning Department requested two additional positions. She stated that
Council discussed this and concurred that additional staff should be considered.
She indicated that this occurred in association with a discussion about
reforming their fee schedule to improve the department's cost recovery for
services. She reported that the fee resolution was amended and new fees were
enacted. She requested that Council now consider adding an Associate Planner
and Assistant Planner to the department's budget.
City Manager Bludau recommended that Council authorize both positions, but
only fill one position at this time due to State budget issues and since this is a
tighter budget year. Mayor Bromberg indicated that the City applauds itself for
providing the best service even though it costs more. He believed that the
department is already stretched thin and asked how desperate the City is for
the two positions. He stated that, if the City is desperate, this should be done
now. Mr. Bludau believed that the City is desperate for one position and could
really use the second. He stated that it is always a balance to provide a high
level of service, especially when money is tight.
Mayor Bromberg noted that the staff report indicates that there are many
required services that the City is unable to perform or perform as timely as it
wants to, and asked if one staff person would cure this problem. Planning
Director Temple indicated that the Mayor is referring to legal mandates that
they are not currently fulfilling, i.e. monitoring development agreements,
affordable housing contracts, and the new Housing Element. She believed that
it would be very difficult to start doing these things without the second person;
however, no one has gotten upset with the City yet for not doing some of those
things. She believed that it has been four years since the development
agreements have been monitored, even though it requires yearly monitoring
reports. Mayor Bromberg indicated that he is in favor of staffing both positions.
Council Member Adams stated that he is opposed to adding permanent staff at
this time. He indicated that he would like to see an estimate of what the
manpower needs are going to be over the next 10 to 20 years. He stated that, if
it can be demonstrated that there is a sustained need for additional staff, he
would consider supporting it. He indicated that, if this is something that is
related to Newport Coast and is short term, he believed that the City should
look at contracting out these positions and bringing in a full-time, in -house
contracted service. He noted that it is nearly impossible to let someone go from
the public sector and there is long term medical and retirement benefits
involved. He believed that you can find someone quicker and get a higher
quality employee by using a contract service. Mr. Bludau indicated that they
did not consider contracting out this service, but Ms. Temple told him that it
seems like the Planning Department projects have been more complex as time
goes on. He agreed that some of the planning services can be easily contracted
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out; however, it would cost the City more money to do this for day -to -day
services. He believed that, in the long term, there will be turnover since people
will retire or accept other positions elsewhere. He stated that a position could
be frozen or eliminated at that time. Ms. Temple reported that they use
contractors for many planning activities, like Community Development Block
Grant (CDBG) management, Business Improvement District (BID)
administration, and California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) reviews.
Further, they have used contract staff consistently for the last four years, but it
has gotten to the point where they are basically full-time people and the work is
not going away. She indicated that she would not have come before Council if
she did not think it was long term. She stated that the workload is sustaining
and is much more difficult and complex. Further, the administration of local
zoning regulations is so peculiar and unique to each community that it is better
to have staff that is trained for this.
Council Member Webb stated that it appears to him that, every time the City
tweaks ordinances or zoning codes, more requirements are added that staff has
to figure out. He believed that the Planning staff has worked diligently to try to
provide the services needed and that they deserve to have what is necessary to
implement all the rules and regulations that Council sets.
Mayor Pro Tern Ridgeway stated that he will support the request since he
thought this was overdue when he was on the Planning Commission. He
reported that, since 1995, the permit valuation has consistently been over
$200 million, except for one year. He indicated that a number of citizens have
complained about service here, but he has seen Planners working until late,
there are a number of projects moving forward throughout the City, and they
have projects being delayed. He agreed that the complexity of the codes and
coordination between the Planning, Building, and Public Works Departments
has increased. Further, there is a greater responsibility since the process has
been streamlined, but there still needs to be a project coordinator. He believed
that there will not be any decreases in the amount of modifications and /or
remodels in the City. He suggested that Council visit the Planning Department
to see their workload because they are overworked. He added that the positions
pay for themselves.
Mayor Bromberg directed staff to place a budget amendment on the City
Council agenda to add two positions in the Planning Department with options
for Council consideration.
4. STATUS OF CASTAWAYS PARK REVEGETATION PROJECT,
General Services Director Niederhaus distributed copies of the PowerPoint
presentation and reported that, at a previous Council meeting, Council Member
Webb asked if there was the possibility for dual use of Castaways Park to have
ornamental turf in the center with permanent irrigation to allow for more active
use of the park. He introduced Park and Tree Superintendent Lomelli and Park
Maintenance Supervisory Kearns, and stated that 8 of the 12 members of the
Castaways Park Advisory Committee are in attendance. He reported that this
area is a remnant of the historic upland habitat, is a 17 acre parcel, is part of a
park system that includes Bob Henry Park, is supposed to be planted with
native plants, at a cost of about $230,000, and was brought before Council about
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a year ago for final approval before acceptance of a grant from the California
Coastal Conservancy (CCC). He reviewed the history of the lot, noting that The
Irvine Company developed the Castaways residential area in 1997 and
transferred the park area to the City as part of the Circulation
Improvement/Open Space (CIOSA) agreement. Further, in June 1998, the City
dedicated the park as a natural park and the improvements included planting
native plants around the perimeter, fencing, and trails. He stated that the
Castaways Park was also the site of native plantings in 1999 and 2000, and that
more improvements have been done mainly through donations.
Mr. Niederhaus utilized an aerial and reported that Phase 1 is the location in
which the turf grass is being proposed. He stated that, if it was turned into
ornamental turf, it would be about 2.5 acres and cost about $50,000 to install
turf and a permanent irrigation system. He noted that the area between the
trail and the houses is a fuel modification zone and would be planted in native
plants that are on the Fire Marshal's list. He stated that Phase 2 has up to
eight sub -areas with different plantings.
Mr. Niederhaus reported that they would install signs, displays, and borders in
certain areas of the park to keep visitors from trampling the native plants in the
pathways. He added that the City would need to use an ecologist to monitor and
maintain the revegetation for three years, noting that the CCC agreement is for
20 years and commenced last year. He highlighted the committee's composition
and reported that their objectives were to preserve the area as a natural park,
restore the park to a self - sustaining ecological site, and obtain grants to pay for
the restoration. He noted that the grant was issued in 2000 after the committee
developed the revegetation plan that was brought before the Parks, Beaches &
Recreation Commission (PB &R) and had a cost of about $230,000. He indicated
that PB &R unanimously agreed to proceed with the grant application in June
2000 and the CCC approved the plan and authorized $99,600 in May 2002. He
reported that Council approved a resolution directing staff to proceed in June
2002, and appropriated $75,000 from the current capital improvement budget to
initiate the project. He added that the Nature Conservancy will soon confirm in
writing its $55,400 share. He reviewed the grant requirements as outlined in
the PowerPoint presentation.
Mr. Niederhaus displayed photos of the existing conditions. He noted that the
revegetation plan will be implemented in two phases and involves the removal
of existing non - native plant species. He also displayed a list of sample plant
palettes for the fuel modification area and the area along Dover Drive. He
indicated that the committee believes that, if the City decided to plant non-
native turf or ornamental turf, it would lose the grant funds from the CCC and
the Nature Conservancy. Mr. Niederhaus reported that they had hoped to bring
the implementation plan before Council in May 2003 for Phase 1, start Phase 1
in June, start Phase 2 in the fall, and complete the project by March 2004.
In response to Council Member Nichols' question, Mr. Niederhaus indicated that
Bob Henry Park is about 4.7 acres. He stated that it is the opinion of staff and
many committee members that installing ornamental turf could make the
project fall out of the CCC guidelines. Council Member Nichols believed that
the City used to have a park ordinance that said that all parks had to be usable
and suggested that there be a better balance. Mr. Niederhaus reported that
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Castaways Fark is designated as a natural park in all City documents.
Council Member Webb asked if the ecologist is included in the $230,000
estimate. Mr. Niederhaus indicated that it was not but believed that they could
compare the ecologist's cost with the planting contractor since the agreement
allows for one or the other. He added that he believed that having a contractor
in the business who planted the plants and has an interest in their survival may
be more economical, but he currently does not have a cost for this. Council
Member Webb noted that the park is supposed to have trails but there would be
no ability to run through the area or utilize the area except on the trails.
Mr. Niederhaus concurred that there will be limited use in that area to protect
the native plants since they are very fragile the first three years. He added that
there would be regulatory signs asking that people not walk through the native
plantings, plus there will be a demonstration area near the drinking fountain
that will have all the species and description of what they are.
Council Member Webb stated that he has had a number of people ask him why
there could not be a grassy turf area that would make Castaways Park more
usable for the public. He reported that the City originally spent $900,000, of
which $450,000 was from CIOSA funds; the site is 17 acres which is probably
worth $1 million per acre; and the agreement with CCC puts strict requirements
on the City for 20 years to not do anything to the park except maintain the
natural growth. He expressed concern that the City is giving up a lot for a
relatively small sum of money. He believed that, if the City moves forward,
there ought to be a way to come up with a compromise to have some grassy
areas. He stated that he does not know why the entire site needs to be a natural
habitat area and why the City could not use 1.5 or 2 acres for a grassy area.
Further, he indicated that he is not aware of any significant outreach program
to get public input of what the surrounding neighborhood would like to have,
other than having a hearing before PB &R and having Council approve the
agreement and grant application.
Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway stated that he would support an outreach to discuss
whether some type of sod grass can be implemented into the overall plan for
natural vegetation. He noted that he also supports the natural vegetation, but
pointed out that the park is 17 acres of natural vegetation. He reported that, in
the last couple of years, trees have been dedicated in the park that he does not
believe are indigenes to the area, and questioned whether the spirit of the open
space has already been violated because of this. He stated that he would
support discussing a modified plan with the CCC so the City is not limited for
20 years. Mr. Niederhaus clarified that the coastal oak and the white alder
trees are native to the area but normally do not grow this close to the coast.
In response to Mayor Bromberg's question, Mr. Niederhaus reported that
Castaways Park was designated a "natural park' in 1998 by Council. Further, it
was designated as a natural park in the negative declaration that was done a
year ago in association with the Local Coastal Plan (LCP). Mayor Bromberg
stated that, if a natural park excludes the ornamental turf, the City may need to
stick to what it initially agreed to. However, if a natural park provides for a
greenbelt, then he would be okay with it.
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Mr. Bludau stated that it is up to Council to decide how much worth to give the
CCC grant. However, he believed that the CCC would not fund the City any
time in the future if it changed its direction on how the park should be
developed and gave back the money. Mr. Niederhaus added that doing this
would also alienate the Nature Conservancy and reminded Council that the City
still has Newport Village and Bayview Landing as possibilities where grant
applications may be submitted for native plantings.
Elaine Linho£f believed that the current plan is a wonderful plan and that the
goals for the park are terrific. She noted that most of the parks in the City have
mowed turf that needs to be irrigated, and believed that there is room in the
City for one natural park, especially since the City may be facing a shrinking
budget and a water shortage. She asked if people can walk on the native grass
once it is established. Mr. Niederhaus confirmed with Mr. Lomelli that this is
possible after two to three years.
In response to Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway's question, Mr. Niederhaus confirmed
that maintenance is involved with natural grass at a cost of about $20,000 a
year. He clarified that, of the 17 acres of park, the 4.7 acres of flat area in the
center compares favorably to the 5 acres at Bob Henry Park. He stated that the
remaining 12 acres is terrain that is not useful.
Allan Beek stated that there are many lawns in the City and that the decision
was made several years ago to make Castaways Park the one place where
people can see what the native grass in California was like before it was paved
over. He noted that people can still fly kites, run, and have picnics once the
native grasses are established. He stated that he supports having a
neighborhood outreach to find out bow they want Castaways Park to be utilized
and developed, believing that the original design went forward without having
this. He added that the remote control glider hobbyists were driven out with
this design and stated that this should be reconsidered. Further, the decision to
discourage or close off the footpaths that appear spontaneously across the park
is a mistake. He suggested that the area immediately to the left of Phase 1 also
be planted with native grasses since it is flat.
Council Member Webb believed that the eucalyptus trees would be removed
after four or five years and asked Mr. Beek if he was supportive of their removal
to have some other type of tree that would not be as big. Mr. Beek indicated
that he is impartial on this issue.
Jan Debay stated that she was seated on Council in 1998 when there was a
discussion about grass in the area. She noted that, with asphalt trails, the City
does not really have a natural park and that the precedence has been set for
some kind of compromise because of the presence of the asphalt. She stated that
she would like to see Council Member Webb's suggestion carried out. She added
that the trails make access wonderful for mother's pushing strollers and
wheelchairs, and for the times when you want to spend quiet time when you
make it to the edge of the park. She stated that people can go to the Back Bay if
they want to see California the way it was before it was paved over. She added
that she would also like to see some kind of study done. She suggested that the
picnic tables be installed in the grass area to make it a "passive, with a little
action park ".
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Bo Glover, Executive Director of the Environmental Nature Center, stated that
he was asked to chair the Castaways Park Advisory Committee four years ago to
develop the park as a natural park. He explained that a "natural park" is a
passive -use park that contains native, indigenes, and naturally occurring flora
and fauna. Further, recreational pursuits in a natural park include walking,
hiking, running, and nature observation. He indicated that he does not know
the source of this definition, but it was the definition that was used by the
committee and submitted to the CCC for the grant. He noted that he has been
the direct contact to the CCC for a lot of the grant preparation. He reported
that it is true that the CCC does not fund turf grass and will pull its funding
from the project if turf grass is implemented; however, he believed that 2.5 acres
may be negotiated. He stated that any turf that is put into the park cannot be
paid for with the $225,000 that has been committed to the project. Council
Member Webb clarified that it was not his intent to use the grant to pay for the
turf grass. Mr. Glover expressed concern about future funding since a CCC
representative stated that, "The City of Newport Beach would not be looked
upon very highly by the Board of Directors."
Mike Evans, owner of Tree of Life Nursery, stated that he has been a member of
the committee since its inception. He noted that his nursery has participated in
many southland projects to provide native plants for jobs like this, but that he
has no stake in the installation, maintenance, monitoring, or any of the work
except to possibly supply plants to the contractor. He believed that the City
would be giving up a lot if a turf -mowed lawn was planted. He agreed that this
type of lawn is abundant in Southern California, and that this would be a great
statement for the City to stick to the plan. He stated that he does not believe
that the combination of turf use and passive use would be compatible. He added
that the Metropolitan Water District (MWD) is initiating a huge campaign to
endorse the planting of California native plants throughout its service district
and will provide funds to cities in order to remove turf grass to plant native
plants. He noted that the CEO of MWD is even planting natural plants at his
home. Regarding the oak and alder trees, Mr. Evans stated that those were
planted before the master plan was created so they do not count. Mayor Pro
Tern Ridgeway clarified that the trees were planted after the master plan was
developed. Mr. Evans encouraged everyone to visit the Rancho Santa Ana
Botanical Garden in Claremont which is a garden dedicated to California native
plants or see the meadow at the Santa Barbara Botanic Garden. Further, he
noted that the project is already behind schedule because the plants need to be
installed during the cool season. He stated that he endorses having picnic
tables. He pointed out that turf requires irrigation and feeding, creates runoff,
creates noise from the mowers, and the clippings would need to be hauled to a
landfill, compared to a self - sustaining park that was already approved by
Council.
Mr. Evans explained that "grassland" includes flowering plants and grass
species to form a meadow that can be explored via paths throughout the flat
area. He added that people can walk on native grass. He confirmed that, if the
native grass is left without any supplemental irrigation, it will be green during
the rainy season and brown during summer. He noted that this plan includes
supplemental irrigation on the flat parts to keep the native meadow /grassland
greener and prettier during the summer. He confirmed that the natural grass is
about 12 inches long and is not normally mowed and stated that the picnic table
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areas would have to be cleared and decomposed granite or a low ground cover
would need to be used underneath the tables.
Coralee Newman stated that she is before Council with some of her neighbors,
Elizabeth Parkinson and Maggie Hayes, who support a natural park, but would
like a portion of it to be a playable, usable area for families and children. She
believed that the park would get more use than what the native grasslands
would provide. She stated that everyone in Newport Heights are very
supportive of the Environmental Nature Center, have volunteered there, and
their children have participated as volunteers. She believed that the Center is
the statement of what a California native habitat looks like and stated that
children from all over the County go to the Center to see this type of
environment. Ms. Newman expressed hope that Council will agree to have some
type of community outreach with the Castaways, Cliff Haven, Newport Heights,
and Bayshores neighborhoods. She stated that she agrees with Mr. Beek that
people should use the existing paths and continue to use them in the way they
have historically been used. She noted that this is a 17 acre park in one of the
most prestigious places in the City and believed that there should be a
compromise between a natural park and a park that can be used by the
community at large.
Val Skoro stated that he was on the committee and they did not formally have
an outreach program. He stated that he would like to see the park made more
user - friendly by adding picnic tables and some type of turf. He added that,
when you sit on the benches that are currently there, you cannot see the
magnificent view and asked if viewing spots can be added that can enhance the
ambience. Regarding maintenance, he believed that the City probably does not
want to undermine the grant requirements. He stated that someone told him
that the park has an elitist view, but believed that a park should be for the City
at large. He commended Dr. Vandersloot for all the work he has done in the
park and Mr. Glover for getting the grants.
Jack Keating, President of the Newport Bay Naturalists and Friends, stated
that they operate at the Upper Newport Bay. He indicated that a major part of
the mission is to restore and preserve the native habitat of the Upper Newport
Bay and its surroundings. He stated that they educate people about restoring
as much of the habitat as they can in this area to a native state. He expressed
their support of Mr. Glover's work and all those speaking in favor of keeping the
park in a natural state. He agreed with Mr. Skoro that the view is beautiful and
that he would like to see picnic tables there.
Dr. Jan Vandersloot stated that he has been involved with the Castaways Park
issue since 1987. He indicated that he believes that there has been public
outreach, noting that they spent several years in the mid -1990s discussing
iterations of the park. He believed that one of the reasons that the public is
looking to change the park to include turf grass is because the central park does
not appear as pretty as it did when it was first planted in 1998 and contributed
this to the premature withdrawal of the temporary irrigation system and three
subsequent years of drought. He suggested that the City follow CCC's
revegetation plan and correctly replant the area with native grass and keep the
irrigation system until the grass is restored. He believed that turf grass can be
creatively planted in Area 7 near the benches and be intertwined with the
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native wildflowers. He added that this may be accomplished within the
parameters of the CCC grant so the City would not lose it. However, if the City
tried to put turf in the central 2.5 acres, the CCC would pull its grant money
and the City would be jeopardizing any future CCC funding opportunities. Dr.
Vandersloot agreed that the City should stay with what was agreed to. He
asked that the City give the area a chance since the funding is in place.
Don Thomas stated that he frequently uses Castaways Park and that he was
pleased when the City was able to obtain the view site when it developed the
Castaway homes. He indicated that saltbush was planted the entire length of
the view corridor in front of the homes, but believed that having saltbush is like
having a four foot high concrete wall between you and the view of the water
since your view is obstructed when you walk through the park. He stated that
he attended a committee meeting several months ago in which they said they
were going to reseed or replant the area and remove the saltbush, but no one
has mentioned that tonight. He emphasized that views are what Newport
Beach is all about, but little children cannot see through the saltbush to see the
water. He expressed his support of a lawn area in the center area, noting that
the point is a small area and families cannot use it because they would be on top
of each other. He explained that there are so many lawns in the City because
people like grass since it is user - friendly. He stated that one of the reasons
people said to keep the saltbush was to keep people from going across the fence
to the edge of the bluff on the Fourth of July. He asked how much it costs the
City to keep the saltbush trimmed and hauled off compared to having a security
guard on site once a year. Council Member Webb reported that the work plan
for Area 2 along the bluff does state that they would eradicate two - thirds of the
saltbush. Mr. Niederhaus added that all of the saltbush from the top of the bluff
to the base will be removed because it is a major maintenance expense for the
City.
Mr. Bludau suggested having City staff get together with the CCC to explore
options that would not hurt the funding grant. Mayor Bromberg agreed and
suggested including Mr. Glover in the discussions.
Mr. Bludau noted that the CCC does not fund big grants but has about $400 to
$500 million of Proposition 50 and Proposition 40 water quality and habitat
restoration money available. He stated that the City will be going to them to
fund the Big Canyon project which will be about $3 million.
Mayor Bromberg requested that staff find out if an outreach program happened.
He noted that the project is supposed to start in June but believed that an
outreach program would not be unreasonable. He asked if the City violated the
Council decision from 1998 when it planted trees and installed asphalt
walkways in the park.
Mayor Pro Tern Ridgeway stated that he respects all the speakers and believed
that Dr. Vandersloot's idea about the grass and picnic tables has merit. He
added that he also supports Mr. Bludau's suggestion to meet with the CCC and
to include Mr. Glover and Council Member Webb in the discussions to reach a
compromise. He stated that an outreach would also be appropriate.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
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ADJOURNMENT - at 6:10 p.m
The agenda for the Study Session was posted on March 19, 2003, at 2:15 p.m on
the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of Newport Beach
Administration Building.
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Mayor
City Clerk
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