HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/09/2007 - Study SessionCITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
City Council Minutes
Study Session
October 9, 2007 — 4:00 p.nL
I. ROLL. CALL
Present: Council Member Curry, Mayor Pro Tem Selich, Mayor Rosansky, Council Member
Webb, Council Member Daigle, Council Member Gardner
Excused: Council Member Henn
H.
1. CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
In response to a question by Council Member Gardner pertaining to Item No. 5 (Stop
Signs at Intersection of Clay Street and Riverside Avenue), Public Works Director
Badum indicated that he believed the consultant notified the residents of the
proposed installation of the stop signs, as this is part of the Newport Heights traffic
calming process.
Regarding Item No. 6 (Citizen Survey Contract Award), Council Member Gardner
questioned whether staff had put together its list of five comparison cities. City
Manager Bludau responded that they will work with the consultant on establishing
this list.
Council Member Webb stated that he doesn't consider any of the cities listed by the
consultant as being comparable to Newport Beach and questioned how to verify or
look at the data to ensure that the cities truly are comparable. City Manager
Bludau stated that the consultant has access to other information and it's really
about working with this firm to arrive at a list of cities that are the most comparable
and meaningful to the City. He added that this list could also include cities that the
consultant has not previously surveyed. Additionally, the Finance Committee might
also suggest cities to be compared. He noted that the list could be brought to
Council to ensure everyone is in agreement on the cities to be surveyed.
In response to Council Member Daigle's question pertaining to Item No. 10 (OCTA
Cooperative Agreement), Public Works Director Badum stated that, due to
their financial situation, the TCA will be unable to provide funding for this project
and that, with the new Measure M competitive program starting soon, the City may
be in a good position to receive a substantial amount of funding for this project in
that process.
2. FLUORIDE IN DRINKING WATER.
Utilities Director Myrter provided the staff report using a PowerPoint presentation.
He spoke to Metropolitan Water District (MWD) changes in the fluoride level and
water supply sources, and to the public notification requirements pertaining to
fluoridation changes.
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Edgar G. Dymally, MWD's Water Quality Section, provided a brief report on the
fluoridation implementation program. He noted that the optimal fluoridation level
for dental health is determined by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC), and the rationale behind the fluoridation project is medically related (dental
health). In response to Council questions, he stated that the fluoridation of water is
a practice that has been in existence since the 1970s; there are several water
districts, including Fountain Valley and Huntington Beach, that have a long history
of fluoridating their water; he is unsure why the MWD Board had not previously
changed the fluoridation level; and that Orange County is represented on the MWD
Board.
In response to a question by Council Member Curry, Mr. Dymally stated that the
fluoridation of water is not a discretionary decision of the Council, and this matter is
before the Council as part of the notification requirements.
Mr. Dymally reviewed the fluoridation facilities construction schedule, noting that
the Diemer plant that services Orange County will begin fluoridating its water on
November 19th. He discussed the cost estimates and the reasoning behind
staggering fluoridation implementation, and displayed a map indicating when
fluoridation will begin He explained their outreach program, which is a regional
message given to approximately 350 agencies that receive MWD water. He noted
there has been a lot of information/misinformation and their job is to give the facts
as accepted, not just by MWD but by other regulatory agencies. He reviewed their
roles and responsibilities as a water wholesaler.
Utilities Operations Manager Murdoch reviewed the City's water supply, the
estimated concentrations of fluoride in the distribution system, and
maps depicting pressure zones and flouride levels of the City's ground water and
MWD water supplies. He added that flouride levels will vary between 0.2 and 0.8
PPM, the water supply will determine flouride levels, a fluoride monitoring program
will be initiated in November 2007, and flouride levels are included in the annual
water quality report.
Dr. David Kennedy, Fluoride Information Officer for the International Academy of
Oral Medicine and Toxicology, displayed a PowerPoint presentation. Dr. Kennedy
stated that the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that infants receive no
fluoride; a baby bottle of fluoridated water delivers a dose that would be considered
gross malpractice, as it contains a higher dosage than any doctor can currently
prescribe; and cities have a duty to inform their water customers of this potential
harm to their children. He added that the use of fluoridated water during a child's
formative years (pre -birth to approximately 8 years old) can lead to dental fluorosis
(i.e. spotting or browning, mottling, more prone to fractures); and the American
Dental Association recommends that, if liquid concentrate or powdered infant
formula is the primary source of nutrition, it be mixed with fluoride -free water to
reduce the risk of fluorosis. In California, dental fluorosis is a proven adverse health
effect, which is costly to fix. He recommended that MWD and each of its member
agencies warn their water customers. He referenced a presentation available
for viewing on You Tube entitled "Poisoned Babies" prepared by Dr. Kathleen
Thiessen, who sat on the National Academy of Science for 3 112 years reviewing
fluoride issues. He reported that the National Academy of Science voted
unanimously that the public health goal for fluoride was not protective. He further
stated that cities have a duty to provide water to its constituents that is safe for
everyone to drink.
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Jeff Green, National Director of Citizens for Safe Drinking Water, stated that MWD
is not mandated to fluoridate the water it supplies to communities; the
communities never had an opportunity to decide if that was wanted; and, in San
Diego, it was indicated there would be no cost to fluoridate the water, however, the
cost was concealed in a water treatment charge which is also being seen in other
communities. He noted that, since 1988, there have been no Federal safety
standards for direct water additives, and the CDC has no jurisdiction over water
quality. He added that there are things Council can do, such as 1) ask MWD if they
have a study on hydrofluosilicic acid for review and 2) to ask for the data that shows
the hydrofluosilicic acid meets United States standards for water additives, has
earned certification for use per California law, and completely disassociates. He
believed that this is Council's protective duty. As far as passing on the cost of
fluoridation, he feels this is not an appropriate Proposition 218 increase, inasmuch
as it's not passing on an increase from a supplier for water treatment, but rather it
is an additional service.
Kristine Carr spoke against flouridating water.
Dick Nichols stated that fluoridating water does not help anyone and isn't needed
for dental reasons. He questioned the safety of the chemicals, as they are only
tested once a year, and how MWD arrived at the correct amount so that the water is
safe for all to consume. He added that the decision on fluoride should be made
individually.
Kathleen Turpin stated that she is horrified about the flouridation of water and
is concerned with child endangerment. She requested to know the toxicity of the
water she is drinking and stated it is not appropriate to have fluoride snuck into the
water supply. She further stated that the voters need to be notified; she will notify
all her friends and loved ones about this potential endangerment; fluoridated water
does not belong in Newport Beach; and it will decrease property values.
Larry Porter urged Council to do everything possible to thwart the addition of
fluoride to the water supply. He distributed handouts prepared by the Fluoride
Action Network, Lono Kahuna Kupua Ho'ala, and John Emsley. He stated
that fluoride is not a benign addition to the water supply for all the reasons
expressed by Dr. Kennedy and Mr. Green; fluoride should be applied topically, not
ingested; and the health of the City's residents will be better without this chemical.
Dolores Otting distributed a pamphlet entitled "Highlights of Congressional
Testimony on Fluoride" and displayed a book entitled "The Fluoride Deception"
written by Christopher Bryson. She noted that the last paragraph on the third
page of the pamphlet cited a comparison between Newburg, NY, which has
fluoridated its water for 50 years, and Kingston, NY, which does not fluoridate its
water, and they found there was no appreciable difference in the rate of dental
decay; however, children living in Newburg did experience higher rates of fluorosis.
She added that Osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in young men has also been linked to
drinking fluoridated water. She believed that the City will expose itself to liability
by distributing fluoridated water. She questioned whether fluoride levels in the
City's water system will increase over the years, whether evaporation will affect
fluoride levels, and whether public pools will be tested regularly. She added that
this is a serious issue, as inhalation and absorption of fluoride is at 100 %. She
requested copies of the contracts with MWD and Fountain Valley.
Barbara Caldwell stated that she purchased Dr. Kennedy's book, as well as
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another dentist's book on the matter, has done extensive research on the internet,
and is upset that no one gets to vote on this. She asked Council to do anything it can
to stop this.
Ila Johnson, Costa Mesa resident and registered dental hygenist, stated that she
will also be affected by this and is adamantly opposed to this imposition of
medication on them. She added that this is being imposed on everyone, while only
children in their formative years will benefit from it, if there is truly a benefit.
She asked Council not to impose it on its residents and hoped Costa Mesa will do the
same.
Blythe Fair distributed a handout on fluoride poisoning and stated that she
is opposed to being medicated against her will. She implored Council to represent
and protect its resident. She indicated that she does not want to have to purchase
reverse osmosis, bottled water, or pay more taxes to receive something she doesn't
want that may cause health - related issues in the future. She added that learning
disabilities and behaviorial disorders, as well as many other health conditions, are
often associated with fluoride. She noted that Dean Burk, Chief Chemist at
the National Cancer Institute, testified at Congressional hearings that 40,000 cancer
deaths in 1981 were directly attributable to fluoride.
Chris Sullivan stated that she is opposed to flouridation and being medicated
against her will and there are a large number of residents that don't want fluoride
added to the water. She asked what alternative the City is offering to them. She
believed that Council does have a choice in this matter since they decide whether to
purchase water from MWD. She also expressed concern that water runoff into the
ocean and bay will impact marine life and plants. She asked that Council not
blindly rush into accepting this issue, but to think about the long -term impact on its
residents.
Portia Weiss pleaded with Council to take into consideration the information
presented today and feels they all deserve the freedom of choice not to be medicated
and to have pure water. She stated that many of them are trying to eliminate the
use of bottled water, as it's linked to carcinogens, and it is not necessary to add
another chemical to the environment that could be detrimental to their health.
Council Member Gardner believed that this is not public outreach when it's a done
deal and this process should have taken place before a decision was made. Since
there are so many concerned residents, she suggested asking for a delay in the
fluoride implementation process to address the concerns.
In response to questions by Mayor Rosansky, Utilities Operations Manager Murdoch
stated that the only water supplies are groundwater and MWD water; there are no
other alternatives; as members of the Orange County Water District, 82% is the
maximum established basin pumping percentage for all pumpers, which is based
on the availability of water in the basin; should the City pump more than this
percentage, there is a risk of being penalized at three times the cost of the water; if
the water demand is reduced, the amount pumped is still only 82% of the water
demand; and the City risks being dropped from the Orange County Water District
basin for over pumping.
Council Member Curry stated that reducing the water demand could result in a
drought, which is not an acceptable alternative; and the residents have raised a
variety of health issues. He requested that staff listen to the meeting tape and
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prepare a series of interrogatories for MWD to respond to relative to
the health issues and then post it on the City's website.
In response to a question by Council Member Daigle regarding rationing of MWD
water, Mr. Dymally stated that he wasn't the appropriate person to address
those issues. He added that, when the MWD Board was deliberating
the fluoridation issue, many of the concerns expressed today were also heard by the
Board; MWD has invested billions of dollars in the safety and treatment of water;
and the Board would never do anything to compromise the health of the residents.
He further stated that, if the City has questions regarding the health and safety of
the water, the appropriate public health official should appear before Council to
address those issues; and they have had Federal, State, and local public health
officials address their Board, and those officials have insisted that the level being
practiced by MWD is safe.
Council Member Gardner requested that someone from the Orange County Public
Health Agency appear before Council since they initiated this request, and have
them answer these questions.
a. UPDATE ON CITYWIDE WI -FI (WIRELESS FIDELITY) NETWORK,
INCLUDING SUMMARY OF PROPOSAL FROM METRO -FI - Continued.
III. PUBLIC COMMENTS
Dolores Otting stated that, after going through the appropriate health agencies, she finally
had to come before Council to address the air conditioning problem at the nursing home
where her mother -in -law was staying.
IV. ADJOURNMENT- 5:46 p.m.
The agenda for the Study Session was posted on October 10, 2007, at 12:10 p.m. on
the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of Newport Beach
Administration Building.
City Clerk
Recording Sec tary
Mayor
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