HomeMy WebLinkAbout07/24/2001 - Study SessionCITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
City Council Minutes
Study Session
July 24, 2001- 4:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Heffernan, O'Neil Ridgeway, Glover, Bromberg, Proctor, Mayor
Adams
Absent: None
CURRENT BUSINESS
1. CLARIFICATION OF ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Regarding Item 3 (Oceanfront Boardwalk Safety Program), Mayor Adams
pointed out that "rollerskaters" is included as a definition but there is no
mention of the word in the ordinance. He suggested replacing "skaters" with
"rollerskaters ".
2. CITY HALL SPACE OPTIONS.
City Manager Bludau stated that the staff report provides some background
regarding past attempts to add space or make space modifications to City
Hall. He expressed concern that the previous Preliminary Feasibility Report
only considered a second story above the Revenue Department and that the
draft Request for Proposal (RFP) for a needs analysis was included when the
City never went out for Request for Qualifications (RFQ). He suggested
waiting on this until the first of the year since the City will be looking at
annexing Newport Coast and coming back with a budget on what it will take
to provide services. He recommended that discussion take place today and
noted that Council may want to form a Council committee to work with staff.
He stated that Council does not need to make this a high priority at this
time, but should have this come back during the beginning preparations of
next year's budget which is during the first of the year.
Mayor Adams noted that, if Council waits until the beginning of the year,
there will be no relief from current conditions for quite some time. He asked
if this was acceptable. Mr. Bludau believed that staff can find a way to live
with this for at least six months, but this should be revisited early next year.
Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway noted that everyone at the last study session
made it clear that they were opposed to temporary facilities. However, if
that appears to be the only solution because of increased demand for services
in one of the departments, then the City may have to use modular facilities.
He emphasized that City Hall should not be relocated and there should be no
consideration of moving it. Mayor Adams stated that he is not opposed to
temporary facilities; however, believed they should be used for a limited time
until a permanent solution is found.
Volume 54 - Page 384
INDEX
City Hall
Space Options
(35)
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
In response to Council questions, Mr. Bludau stated that the RFP reports
when each of the buildings were constructed (handwritten page 20). He
agreed with Mayor Adams that it makes sense to revive the RFP and expand
the needs assessment to offer a number of solutions. He added that this can
begin without Council involvement and that, after the first of the year,
Council can be provided with the information. Mayor Adams suggested
having this information prior to a committee beginning its work. Mr. Bludau
stated that it would be about $25,000 to get this information and that the
previous study was to analyze the needs and determine how space can be
utilized. He noted that an important part of the study will be the timeframe.
Mayor Adams suggested that staff prepare a report for a regular Council
meeting that recommends soliciting an RFP, gives staff recommendations for
the timeframe, and updates the RFP.
Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway stated that it is difficult to determine the needs
with this staff report. He indicated that Council needs to know how much
land there is, how many employees are in the building, how much square
footage is required for those employees, what other cities use, and how much
net usable square feet is available. He emphasized that square footages, the
number of employees, land area, and parking demands need to be taken into
consideration, adding that the citizens also need better parking.
Council Member Glover agreed with Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway, adding that
something is needed that defines the workspace and places departments
together.
Council Member Bromberg noted that an envelope was placed before them
from a modular company that builds modulars that do not look like
modulars.
Council Member Heffernan stated that Council should also consider how
many more employees the City intends to have, how this compares with
other cities in the County, and what residents expect for their services.
Mayor Adams noted that employee levels were already discussed as part of
the budget and that Council's expectations for the number of employees was
made clear.
Mayor Adams stated that the City is not providing the kind of work
environment that it should. He emphasized that this is a genuine need and
not something to just spend money on. He stated that Council wants to do
this right.
Rodman Muller, 20272 Bayview Avenue, stated that he is with William
Scotsman and that he provided Council with the brochure. He reported that
William Scotsman provides commercial modular buildings and that a lot of
them are permanent facilities that are made to look like existing structures.
He added that it is important for the City to know how many employees it
has for space management and how much space is required for their tasks.
Mayor Adams suggested that responses to the RFP be limited to licensed
architects. Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway noted that he received a call today
Volume 54 - Page 385
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
from someone who is very qualified, but is not an architect.
3. THE OCEAN OUTFALL FOR WASTEWATER — ISSUES AND
DISCUSSION.
Assistant City Manager Kiff stated that the staff report deals with sewage
and ocean water quality. He indicated that the question that will come
before Council at a future date is "what should the City, as a member agency
of the Orange County Sanitation District (OCSD), recommend for the
treatment of its own effluent from a five mile outfall off of Huntington
Beach ?" He reported that the effluent is a mix of primary and secondary
treated effluent. He indicated that the OCSD can currently discharge this
from the outfall under a five year permit that is set to expire June 2003. He
stated that, although this is two years away, the emotion and interest level
on this issue suggests that the City should start learning about it early.
Mr. Kiff reported that the 1972 Clean Water Act required sewering agencies
to discharge only full secondary from their outfalls by 1977. However, the
law was amended by Section 301(h) to allow certain agencies discharging
into deep ocean environments to waive the full secondary requirement. He
pointed out that OCSD is 1 of 36 sewering agencies that has a permit
reflecting this waiver. He stated that, as OCSD prepares to renew its permit
under the same waiver or adjust its treatment method, the City has a chance
to take a formal position on the permit. He noted that Mayor Pro Tern
Ridgeway is the City's representative on the OCSD Board.
Mr. Kiff stated that many people in the audience and Harbor Quality
Committee believe that OCSD should not use the waiver in the next permit
term, and that a coastal county that places a high economic and
environmental value on ocean water quality should not be asking for waivers
for sewage discharge. He pointed out that OCSD offers treatment options
(page 8) that still require the waiver, but might be more effective in killing
pathogens than full secondary treatment.
Mr. Ki£f believed that Council's issues are 1) what treatment provides the
cleanest, most pathogen -free water; 2) what type of rate increase might the
market bear since any treatment method over what is done today will cost
more money to the rate payer; 3) is now the time to take a position on this
matter or should the City wait until OCSD finishes its studies on ocean
water quality; and 4) what is the right message to send from a coastal city,
and what message does the City want to send to OCSD and its other
24 member agencies about the importance of ocean water quality.
Mr. Kiff utilized a PowerPoint presentation to show what the outfall looks
like. He reported that the outfall is 4.5 miles out, uses a one mile long
diffuser, is 120 inches in diameter, and goes out near the mouth of the Santa
Ana River. He noted that most of OCSD's member agencies are from
Central and North Orange County, and that everything from Laguna Beach
to Laguna Woods goes through a second outfall associated with the Aliso
Water Management Agency and the Southeast Regional Reclamation
Authority. He clarified that the 250 million gallons of outfall is not just
effluent but is a 50% mix of things that have been treated to a primary level
Volume 54 - Page 386
INDEX
Ocean Outfall for
Wastewater
(51)
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
and 50% that have been treated to a secondary level, and that the biosolids
have been removed. Mr. Kiff stated that this is not the same type of water
treatment as seen in the purple pipes in the hills and clarified that the water
in those pipes are tertiary treated water that will go through the secondary
step and some type of advanced filtering. He noted that this water becomes
the reclaimed water used for irrigation purposes.
Mr. Kiff explained that sewage from homes and businesses goes down a pipe
to a treatment facility. In some cases, before the sewage gets to a treatment
facility, the sewering agency will spray it with sodium hydroxide to try to
control the odor. He stated that, once it gets to the plant, it will go through a
screening device to take out a lot of the large materials and smaller gritty
materials. This is the preliminary treatment. He explained that the
primary treatment tries to take out all the solids that can settle in the water
by adding a clumping agent to encourage the solids to settle out. The
remaining water will continue to the outfall or go on to secondary treatment.
He stated that, during the secondary treatment, they inject bacteria to
further digest the pathogens and materials in the water. He noted that the
next step, which is not always used, is the tertiary treatment in which they
send it through natural filters and charcoal to clean the water to a level that
can be used for irrigation.
Mr. Kiff highlighted the OCSD's options and costs for treatment included in
the staff report. He pointed out that the last column notes whether a waiver
is needed for the different types of treatments.
Mr. Kiff reported that OCSD will conduct three public hearings by March
2002. He stated that the Huntington Beach studies are underway and
indicated that the study is important because OCSD and others are trying to
show that the outfall plume does not affect ocean water quality at the surf
zone. He reported that, in 2002, the draft treatment option report will be
released, with the final report going to the OCSD Board; the permit will be
prepared, more public comment will be conducted, and the OCSD Board will
vote on the permit application. He added that they hope to submit the
permit by December 2002 because the permit needs to be reissued in time
for the June 2003 expiration date.
Council Member Glover asked why all the other large sanitation
departments have gone to the higher standard while Orange County has not
made that transition. Mr. Mff stated that each agency needs to make its
own determination and decide whether to approach the Environmental
Protection Agency (EPA) for the waiver. He added that some agencies
believe they would not pass the tests and decide not to request the waiver.
He stated that Los Angeles County has done this. City Manager Bludau
added that there were a number of agencies that were doing primary
treatment and discharging in the ocean and, when the EPA went to higher
standards, they made grants and matching grants available in order to go to
secondary treatment. He indicated that a number of cities in San Diego did
not avail itself to the grants and, in order to go to the higher standard now,
the cities would have to pay for the costs since there is no more EPA money
available. He believed this is why there is a reluctance to go to a higher
standard. Council Member Glover believed that it is time for Orange County
Volume 54 - Page 387
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
to make the transition because it is so much larger than the other entities.
Mr. Kiff reported that OCSD is the largest agency that operates under a
waiver.
Doug Kurthof, 1020 Mar Vista, Seal Beach, complimented staff on the staff
report. He stated that he first found out about this issue last year and was
surprised because this is something that should have been taken care of a
long time ago. He added that this is an unfunded liability. He stated that
the only treatment not discussed involves injecting water with treated
primary sewage which will then go to the tertiary treatment plant to be used
for a groundwater replenishment program. Mr. Kurthof indicated that some
believe that the effluent water is a resource that is being thrown away;
however, with the population of Orange County, it is not a true statement.
He stated that the options need to be looked at and these obligations need to
be taken care of.
Mr. Kurthof provided a handout which states that the cost of treatment
would have to be born entirely by the cities. He reported that there are
21 cities in four districts which make up the OCSD and, in order to take care
of this liability, 13 votes are needed. He stated that Los Angeles County did
give up their waiver; however, it was a long battle and they did not
voluntarily do this. He believed that the cities will end up going through
this same battle in Orange County. He expressed the opinion that, if it costs
a few more dollars to pay for this option, it is money well spent.
Don McGee, 20701 Beach Boulevard, Huntington Beach, stated that he lives
a short distance from the outfall pipe that OCSD utilizes to pump poorly
treated sewage into the ocean in spite of the Clean Water Act. He indicated
that, because of the 301(h) waiver from the EPA, 240 million gallons are
being pumped a few miles offshore every day, noting that only half is being
treated to any degree of efficiency. Mr. McGee reported that an
oceanography professor at Orange Coast College told him, in 1988, not to eat
any fish caught off the coast because he knew the pollution was
contaminating the fish it was not killing. He noted that this was one trillion
gallons ago. He emphasized that this cannot go on unabated and that
depositing millions of gallons of poorly treated sewage into an ocean on a
daily basis is a recipe for disaster. He believed that the greatest of minds
cannot ascertain the ramifications of the effects of a multitude of chemicals,
human waste, and other carcinogens that are routinely imbedded offshore
each second of each day. He noted that earth and its resources are finite and
this reality needs to be factored into a new paradigm regarding treatment.
Mr. McGee stated that the cost of full secondary or a better tertiary
treatment may sound large, but it pales in comparison to the cost of
continuing the current program. He urged Council to give OCSD notice that
the continued exploitation of the waiver and the degradation of natural
resources is not warranted, necessary, or in the best interest of the City.
Eileen Murphy, 201 21st Street, Huntington Beach, urged Council to vote
against the 301(h) waiver and lead all the other cities. She stated that
OCSD has the money budgeted and believed that they should use it. She
indicated that she attended an OCSD workshop and reported that they are
planning to put microfiltration on the fast track. She noted that it will take
Volume 54 - Page 388
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX I
three years before they find out
OCSD will still need the waiver.
it even works, will cost $3 million, and
Joey Racano, 317 5th Street, Huntington Beach, stated that he is a clean
water activist and is with the Ocean Outfall Group. He stated that there are
five different types of microfiltration and that the one that would be the best
for this use would be reverse osmosis. He noted, however, that reverse
osmosis is energy intensive and expensive. He reported that 240 million
gallons a day is enough to fill Anaheim Stadium three times. He stated that
people have to start realizing that there are over six billion people on the
planet and that this number doubles every 35 years. He believed that the
projected growth in Orange County begs for secondary treatment. Mr.
Racano stated that he is against tertiary treatment because he believes the
emphasis should be placed on purification instead of sterilization. Further,
large areas need to be looked into for percolation ponds and paving should be
done with porous materials. He added that there is a lot of things that
people should be doing, but the most important thing to do now is to go to
full secondary treatment and comply with the Clean Water Act without the
use of waivers or exemptions that were created when Orange County was
much smaller and less populated. He reported that there are 14 million new
people in Orange County who are affected by anything that happens with
the coastal waters. Mr. Racano stated that the activists are not going to let
up and believed that OCSD is a sinking ship.
Nancy Gardner, 323 Jasmine, stated that she is a member of the Newport
Beach Surfrider Chapter and the Harbor Quality Committee. She indicated
that the houses are worth what they are and people visit the City because it
is located on the water. She believed that the City has to set higher
standards when taking care of the waters so that it can say it has done
everything it can. She believed that it makes sense economically for the City
to deny the waiver.
Larry Porter, 2712 Cliff Drive, distributed an editorial from the June 9
edition of the Los Angeles Times that generally states that the waiver no
longer makes sense and that it is time for the EPA to make sure Orange
County subjects its water to the same treatment standard as many other
densely populated areas, including Los Angeles. He noted that Los Angeles
has gone to secondary treatment and believed that this is better than what
OCSD is doing now. Further, this option only adds 5 cents per person per
day. He reiterated that the waiver expires in 2003 and stated that scientists
and environmentalists are already voicing concerns about the wisdom of
piping a plume of partially treated sewage four miles offshore and hoping it
will not drift back to plague swimmers. He noted that they did not consider
which way the wind blows, that grease and oil float, and that the plume
changes. He believed that common sense must take over at some point and
that the rate payers will have to bite the bullet and do the job right. He
agreed that the City should set an example. Mr. Porter continued to read
that Orange County beaches withstand urban runoff from the Santa Ana
River and bacterial waste from water fowl in the Talbert Marsh Area.
Further, the hundreds of millions of gallons of sewage discharged daily from
OCSD's outfall pipe should be as clean as possible. He stated that, as
resilient as the ocean is, we cannot afford to treat it as a sewer. He
Volume 54 - Page 389
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
concluded by highlighting a presentation by Jan Vandersloot that discusses
the different treatment scenarios and results of the discharge.
Jan Vandersloot stated that he has been working on this since December
2000 as a member of the Ocean Outfall Group (OOG) which has about
120 members. He reported that they have been attending the monthly
OCSD Board meetings, attended OCSD staff meetings to learn about their
operations, and visited the Cities of Orange, Stanton, Yorba Linda, and
Huntington Beach. He requested that Council take the first step to adopt a
resolution opposing the waiver and even ask them to revoke the waiver
before the expiration date. He believed this is a reasonable step since the
ocean that is right outside the City's doorstep is being impacted by partially
treated sewage. He reiterated that the 240 million gallons a day equates to
filling the Anaheim Stadium three times a day. He reported that the
dumping creates a sewage plume that is six miles long, three miles wide,
and 100 feet thick. Dr. Vandersloot stated that OCSD's waiver is one of the
last out of 15,000 sanitation districts in the country. He thanked Mr. Kiff for
working on this staff report and for being able to get OCSD to give him data.
He stated that they are finding out that it is actually cheaper to go to full
secondary with disinfection than what OCSD has reported to OOG. He
noted that it will actually cost about 3.8 cents per person per day, and a little
over six cents a day per person to go to full secondary plus UV disinfection.
He requested that the audience members who oppose the waiver raise their
hand and stated that about 95% oppose the waiver.
Dr. Vandersloot reported that the groundwater replenishment system was
approved in March by OCSD and the Orange County Water District, and
uses 100 million gallons a day of secondary treated sewage. He explained
that doing this means that most of the sewage going into the ocean will only
be subjected to primary treatment. He pointed out that the same amount of
sewage will be going out of the outfall; however, it will be 80% primary
treated and only 20% secondary treated. He emphasized that the water
quality will be worse because of the groundwater replenishment system. He
added that the benefit to having all the water treated to secondary level is
that it can still be turned into reclaimed water.
Dr. Vandersloot added that OCSD wants to take primary treated water and
push it through a membrane for microfiltration, believing that this will solve
the problem and be cheaper than going to full secondary. He emphasized
that this is an experimental idea and has not been proven to be feasible.
Dr. Vandersloot reported that the 1996 20 -Meter Study showed that, when
there was a very large reading of bacteria in Newport Beach at a depth of
20 meters, it seemed to correspond to the outfall's elevated bacteria reading.
He added that the beaches of Newport Beach were affected by the plume;
however, OCSD will tell us that they never saw the plume come to shore.
Council Member Heffernan asked what the City's position has been on the
previous waiver request. Dr. Vandersloot stated that he could not remember
but believed the City did not oppose it after a public hearing in 1998.
He added that the waivers are only for five years because it is presumed that
it would end.
Volume 54 - Page 390
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
In response to Council Member Proctor's questions regarding the cost for the
50 -50 mix (page 8), Mr. Kiff stated that he spoke with OCSD's staff last
week and that it is his understanding that the "Total Capital Cost to 2020" is
the cost of making sure they have enough plant capacity to reach the
population served in 2020. He indicated that the $1.6 billion reflects the cost
for the plant, using the 50 -50 mix, to reach the 2020 population of
2.8 million. He reported that the current population base is 2.35 million.
Mayor Pro Tom Ridgeway added that there is no accuracy to any of the
numbers. He noted that he is on the Planning, Development, and
Construction Committee at OCSD and that the cost to rebuild and update
Plant No. 2, which offers an opportunity for full secondary treatment, kept
ranging from $48 million to $126 million. He stated that the operational
cost would actually be about six cents per person per day. He reminded
everyone that they pay their sanitation fee in their tax bill and that it is
currently about $90 per household. He stated that, with a family of four
paying an additional five cents per person per day, it raises the annual tax
bill by about $80.
Irwin Haydock, 11570 Aquamarine Circle, Fountain Valley, provided
Council with a handout that reflects his understanding of the situation and
discusses his experiences over the last three decades as an environmental
scientist in charge of ocean monitoring and research for Los Angeles County.
He noted that the Los Angeles County Sanitation District has 57 members
and that more of those cities are inland cities than coastal cities. He stated
that they went to full secondary treatment because the mayor at that time
decided to do this. He reported that San Diego received its waiver because
they went 90 meters deep instead of 60 meters. He indicated that Orange
County was the first to get a waiver in 1985 because they made decisions
about source control that were ahead of Los Angeles County at the time.
They received a second waiver in 1998 because of how the current general
manager talked to the Board about the balance between air, land, and water
in 1990.
Mr. Haydock further discussed the history of outfalls. He stated that it is a
constant effort on the part of all the staff he has worked with to understand
the ocean and its motion, and to be able to predict when the plume would hit
the beach. He emphasized that they never said it would not hit the beach.
Mr. Haydock stated that it is time to do something. He noted that Los
Angeles County does not have full secondary treatment yet and, since they
just lost their waiver last year, have been continuously chlorinating the
water every day. He reported that Palos Verdes only has 180,000 visitors a
year, while Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, and Seal Beach have
millions of visitors each year, making the risk for a viral bacteria a greater
concern.
Bob Caustin, Defend the Bay, stated that now is the time for the City to take
the lead and work with the other cities that are going to make this decision.
He pointed out that when someone talks about 70% of the solids falling out,
it means 30% of the solids that have been flushed into the toilet from
hospitals, hospices, and homes, continue to go out into the ocean. He noted
that with the 50 -50 mix, 40 million fecal coliform per 100 ml is now going out
Volume 54 - Page 391
City of Newport Beach
Study Session Minutes
July 24, 2001
INDEX
to sea. He stated that he would like to work with the City to figure out a
way to bring the full secondary treatment plus W disinfection into play.
Council Member Bromberg stated that he previously sat on the Harbor
Quality Committee and noted that Newport Beach is the most preeminent
coastal city in the State. He requested that this issue come back with a
resolution to oppose the waiver and also consider a full secondary treatment
with UV disinfection.
Mayor Pro Tem Ridgeway stated that he does not believe that the OCSD will
be requesting a vote during the remainder of this year. He believed that it is
fair to wait, noting that he asked that the 301(h) waiver issue be brought
before the Harbor Quality Committee and since the OCSD is spending
$3 million to $4 million to collect data. He agreed that this does need to
come back and Council ultimately needs to adopt a resolution in opposition
to the 301(h) waiver. He expressed hope that the vote will be unanimous.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - None.
ADJOURNMENT - 6:10 p.m.
The agenda for the Study Session was posted on July 18, 2001, at
3:00 p.m. on the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of
Newport Beach Administration Building.
Recording Secretary
Mayor
PO�,
City Clerk
Ctt� FORS
Volume 54 - Page 392