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3909 Via Manzana • San Clemente, California 92672 • (714) 496.1772
JANUARY 9, 1981
CITY MANAGER ROBERT L. WYNN
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
300 NEWPORT BLVD.
NEWPORT BEACH, CA. 92662
DEAR MR. WYNN:
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I AM REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF TWO LOTS THAT APPEAR
ON THE ASSESSORS MAP BOOK 52o PAGE 19, COUNTY OF ORANGE.
THE LOT NUMBERS ARE #71 AND #72 AND THE TRACT NUMBER
IS 673•
THESE LOTS WERE PURCHASED BY THE OWNERS FROM JAMES
IRVINE IN 1926 AND HAVE BEEN RETAINED IN THE FAMILY
SINCE THAT TIME. THEY APPEAR TO BE LEGAL LOTS.
COULD YOU GIVE ME AN INDICATION OF THE STATUS OF THESE
LOTS. THE OWNERS ARE INTERESTED IN BUILDING ON THEM
AND ARE CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS TO THE LOTS.
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5. That the boundary of the final map be checked
by the County Surveyor before being submitted
to the City for approval.
6. That Section 19.16.030 of the Subdivision
Ordinance regarding map scale be waived.
7. at there shall be submitted a declaration of
Cov nts, Conditions and Restrictions govern-
ing the intenance and operation of the
condominiu cceptable to the Director of
Community Deve ment and the City Attorney.
8. That prior to the issu a of building permits
a sub -surface investigatio of the site shall
be performed to determine if proposed
excavation will penetrate below t water
table. If necessary, the applicants 1
submit a detailed program for any dewater'
operation to the City and to the Regional
Water Quality Control Board.
Item #9
AMENDME
Request to amend portions of Districting Maps Nos.
18, 19 and 20 to establish an increase in the
NO. 446
required rear yard setbacks on properties abutting
Buck Gully located on Poppy Avenue; Hazel Drive,
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Isabella Terrace, Mendoza Terrace, De Sola Terrace
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Cabrillo Terrace, Cortes Circle, Columbus Circle,
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and Evening Canyon Road; and amend Section 20.12.
060 (C.) of the Municipal Code having to do with
rear yards in the R-1 Zone District.
Initiated by: The City of Newport Beach
Community Development Director Hogan reviewed the
proposal and intent to designate Buck Gully as '
public open space as ,indicated in -,the General Plan
and the means by which this could be accomplished
through the establishment of rear yard setbacks.
He pointed out that the purpose of the public
hearing was to allow for imput from the public and
the proposal as outlined was in no way conclusive.
Alternate actions to the proposal which could be
taken by the Planning Commission were also review-
ed as well as the background information which led
to the initiation of the proposed amendment.
Public hearing was opened in connection with this
matter.
Jim Shindler, 409 Cabrillo, appeared before the
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Commission and concurred with the objectives of
the request, however, he could not understand why
his entire home was included within the open space
designation and felt that a line conforming with
the natural contour of the gully, rather than from
the street, would be more appropriate.
Staff agreed that none of the existing houses
should be included in the open space designation
and advised that the line could be adjusted in
such a way as to eliminate this problem. _
Per Trebler, President of the Shore.cliffs Associ'a-
tion,.appeared before the Commission and question-
ed the need for an amendment because of the presen
restrictions which must be met prior to any con-
struction or alterations. He presented copies of
"Shorecliffs" C.C.& R.s and pointed out the por-
tions which accomplish the same results as the pro
posed amendment, i.e., the preservation of views a
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open space. Under the circumstances he felt that
the proposed amendment should be denied, however,
as an alternative, he requested that the amendment
be continued to allow for further communication
with citizens who are not represented by an assoc-
iation. He also suggested that if the same type
of designation was anticipated for the Morning
Canyon Area, that the matter be continued and both
canyons be considered simultaneously.
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Nigel Bailey, President of the Corona Highlands
Association, appeared before the Commission and `
requested that before a precedent was established
by this amendment, that the matter be continued
and that Morning Canyon be considered at the same
time as Buck Gully. He also felt that the setback
line could be moved further into the canyon without
adverse effects.
Dr. John Wehrly, Tustin, appeared before the
Commission and advised that he was the owner of
Lots 71 and 72, Block A, located at the bottom of
Buck Gully, and objected to the open space
designation.
Planning Commission discussed Mr. Wehrly's pro-
perty and whether or not the dedicated street
would be improved in the future. City Engineer
Nolan advised that the street would be difficult
to improve because of the topography of the land
and also that the property would be subject to
flooding.
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Roger Hardacre, 306 Hazel Drive, appeared before
the Commission and voiced concern with the poten-
tial loss of certain property rights by reason of
the proposed amendment and felt that a continuance
would be beneficial to those property owners who
were not represented by an association, as this
would permit the opportunity for some organization
Murton Willson, 336 Poppy, questioned future
improvements to Glen Drive or any improvements
through the gully. Staff advised they did not
know of any public improvements intended for the
street or through the gully and the only purpose
of the proposed amendment was to limit constructio
within the open space area.
Planning Commission discussed trail systems in the
area and reviewed the section of the General Plan
as it pertained to trails within Buck Gully.
Bob Scholler, 265 Evening Canyon Road, questioned
whether there were any proposed plans for Buck
Gully to become a City owned park and voiced
concern with rumors' in this connection.
Bernard Berg, 532 Hazel Drive, concurred with the
intent to preserve the gully, however,, he objected
to any construction of trails which would encourag
any type of traffic through the canyon as this is
-private property and should be given the same
consideration as other private property.
Bryant Marston, 620 Poppy Avenue and 709 Poppy
Avenue, requested clarification of the effect of
the proposed amendment on his property and whether
or not the existing development could remain if
further improvements were constructed.
Dickson Shafer, 232 Evening Canyoh- Road appeared
before the Commission on behalf of his neighbor,
Torrey Webb, 225 Evening Canyon Road, who felt
that the proposed action was inverse condemnation
and would like to have the City either buy the
property which could not be used or have•it
removed from the tax rolls.
Harold Shillock, 242 Evening Canyon Road, appeared
before the Commission and advised that more study
should be made and a topographical map prepared
before this matter was given any further consider-
ation because of the problem of flooding.
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Norman Tillner, 324 Hazel Drive, felt that constru
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tion of a trail through the canyon would be more
damaging than any construction which could be done
on the individual lots.
Paul Pritchard, 220 Evening Canyon Road, commented
on a similar situation with Fern Dell on Western
Avenue in Los Angeles and the transformation which
has occured.
Phil Lansdale, 242 Hazel Drive, appeared before
the Commission in favor of the proposal.
Mrs. Berg, 532 Hazel Drive, voicedconcern with
people trespassing on private property through
the canyon and the possibility of being excluded
from any plans because they were not represented
by an association.
Staff advised of their willingness to cooperate
with the various associations and individual
property owners in any way possible regarding the
proposed amendment.
Planning Commission requested that a main be pre-
pared indicating City property, public easements,
boundaries governed by the various C.C.S R.s, if
possible, and requested that the City Attorney
prepare a legal opinion relative to inverse con-
demnation as well as the effect of the proposed
amendment on landlocked property at the bottom of
the canyon.
Motion
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Following discussion, motion was made to continue
All Ayes
the public hearing to the meeting of July 17,
1975.
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Item #1
Request to consider amending Section 20.02.090 of
AMENDME
the Newport Beach Municipal Code"pertaining to the
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definition of "building site."
APPROVE
Initia d b_: The City of Newport Beach
Planning Comm1 ion discussed the intent and
purpose of the pro ed amendment.
Public hearing was opened connection with this
matter and there being no ones} 'ring to appear
and be heard, the public hearing w closed.
Motion
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Motion was made recommending to the City cil
All Aye
that Amendment No. 445 be approved.
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