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CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Planning Commission Minutes
April 24, 1997
Regular Meeting - 7:00 p.m.
Present: Commissioners Fuller, Ridgeway, Kranzley, Adams, Gifford, Selich
and Ashley - Chairperson Adams and Commissioner Gifford were
excused.
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Z. Wood, Assistant City Manager,
Community and Economic Development
Robin Clauson, Assistant City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation and Development Services Manager
Ginger Varin, Executive Secretary to Planning Commission
Minutes of April 10, 1997:
Motion was made by Commissioner Selich and voted on to approve, as clarified, the
April 10, 1997 Planning Commission Minutes.
Ayes: Fuller, Ridgeway, Kranzley, Selich, Ashley
Noes: none
Absent: Adams, Gifford
Abstain: none
Public Comment x none
Posting of the Agenda
Mrs. Wood stated that the Planning Commission Agenda was posted on Friday, April
18, 1997 outside of City Hall.
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SUBJECT: 2118 West Oceanfront
Blackie's by the Sea (Thirtieth Street Architects, applicant)
• Use Permit No. 3607
Request to permit a change in the operational characteristics and interior alterations
of an existing bar that was established prior to requirement of a use permit. The
application requests to:
• allow a change in the facility to establish full alcoholic beverage service;
• increase the size of the area devoted to the service of alcoholic beverages
(approximately20 square feet);
• the waiver of specif ic restaurant development standards.
Mrs. Wood presented the staff report stating that this item is a result of the City Council
action with regard to an upgrade of a liquor license from beer and wine to full service.
The business is in an area that is "over concentrated" with liquor license according to
state law. The City Council agrees that the liquor license could be upgraded
because this is an establishment that has not been problematic in the past and the
applicant has agreed to apply for a Use Permit for the establishment along with this
change in the operation. This is such an old business that there is no previous use
permit so there are no conditions of approval. The applicant has agreed that the
conditions of approval would mirrorwhat the existing operations have been.
The physical changes are minor with interior alterations which decrease the net public
area. The establishment does not meet current development standards as it is in a
very old building and is an old use. It has operated without problems, therefore, staff
recommends approval of the application.
Commissioner Selich asked about the existing non - conforming building with the uses
conforming to the general plan and zoning. It is non - conforming by the fact that
there is no current use permit. He clarified that by approving this application, we
would have a conforming use in a non - conforming building.
Commissioner Ridgeway asked about and received clarification on item 18 in
conditions. It was clarified that the Planning Commission and City Council have the
ability to take action to revoke a permit if the applicant has not complied with the
conditions.
Public Hearing was opened.
Mr. John Loomis, Thirtieth Street Architects, applicant - speaking on behalf of the
owners and operators stated that they have reviewed the conditions with the owners.
The owners would like to open on Saturdays and Sundays at 9:30 during a portion of
the football season to accommodate the Eastern pro football game viewing by the
patrons. This has been the historical practice, which they would like to continue under
the new Use Permit.
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Commissioner Fuller asked for and received clarification. Is it only on those days that a
pro game starts at 9:30 a.m. that you want to open at 9:30 a.m., so that on the next
Sunday that the game started later than 9:30 a.m. Blackie's would not be opened at
9:30 a.m. to which Mr. Loomis replied, yes.
Commissioner Ashley stated that the televised games start at 10:00 a.m.
Mr. Loomis answered that yes, but when the college games cease, some of the pro
games are scheduled earlier due to scheduling both on Saturdays and Sundays.
Mr. Les Bobbit, manager- stated that about the last two weekends of the season, the
pro foot ball games start at 9:30 on both Saturday and Sunday.
Discussion then followed regarding the bar area and game room footage. It was
noted that the net public area for the restroom and storage, kitchen and service were
changed from 496 square feet to 510 square feet, and, the net public area for the
bar area and game room were changed from 894 sq. ft to 880 square ft..
Commissioner Fuller asked about and received information on the remodeled floor
plan, placement and dimensions of where equipment will be housed and video and
• skill games. Mr. Bobbit stated that there are two pool tables and four videos on the
premises.
It was also clarified that the owners of the building are the City of Newport Beach and
the University of Calif omia, Irvine. The property was bequeathed to the City through a
Trust.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Loomis stated that he has read, understands and agrees to
the conditions and findings attached to Use Permit No. 3607. City Council approval of
the change in the liquor license is conditioned on the applicant obtaining the CUP
and the intent is to bring this into a controlled situation and to have standard
conditions to implement further review if problems should arise.
Public Hearing was closed.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway for approval of Use Permit No. 3607
pursuant to the findings and conditions as attached in Exhibit A of the staff report,
changing the opening hour to 9:30 a.m. during the months of December and January
on weekends only.
Ayes: Fuller, Ridgeway, Kranzley, Selich, Ashley
Noes: none
Absent: Adams, Gifford
Abstain: none
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Findings:
1. That the Land Use Element of the General Plan.and the Local Coastal Program
Land Use Plan designate the site for "Retail Service Commercial" uses and a
bar is a permitted use within this designation.
2. That this project has been reviewed, and it has been determined that it is
categorically exempt from the requirements of the California Environmental
Quality Act under Class (Existing Facilities).
3. That the proposal involves no physical improvements which will conflict with
any easements acquired by the public at large for access through or use of
property within the proposed development.
4. That the waiver of development standards as they pertain to setbacks, walls
(surrounding the restaurant /bar site), parking and traffic control, landscaping
and lighting meets the purpose or intent of the development standards as
they apply to restaurant /bars, which will not be achieved to any greater
extent by strict compliance with those requirements for the following reasons:
The existing physical characteristics of the site will not be altered since
the work is interior work and the exterior building walls are not
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• Walls in full compliance with the standards would adversely impact
traffic circulation in the alley setback.
• The same purpose or intent of the required walls surrounding the
property to control noise can be achieved by the limitation on the
hours of operation and the fact that no specific noise generating
activities, such as live entertainment, are permitted in this facility.
• The project does not include any exterior alteration which would
adversely impact existing traffic circulation through the alley or
pedestrian pathways in the public right -of -way.
• The remodeling proposed constitutes a minor change which does not
warrant an increase in the landscape area to achieve greater
conformance with the development standards and the addition of
landscaping cannot be accomplished due to the building being built
out to the property lines at the front and rear of the property.
• There have not been any past complaints related to lighting; and the
Code requirement's intent or purpose can be achieved by insuring
that the existing light sources mounted on the subject building are
directed in a manner consistent with the provisions of the Municipal
Code.
5. The approval of Use Permit No. 3607 will not, under the circumstances of the
case, be detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals, comfort and
general welfare of persons residing or working in the neighborhood or be
detrimental or injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood or
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the general welfare of the City, for the following reasons:
• The proximity of the municipal parking lots are adequate to serve the
parking demand of the proposed bar facility.
• The interior alterations result in a reduction in the overall net public
area and the general parking requirement for the area.
• The proposal is a change of alcohol license of an existing bar and is
not the addition of a new liquor license to an overconcentrated area.
• The existing bar establishment has generated a low number of Police
and Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control problems in the area.
• The bar use is compatible with the surrounding commercial and
residential uses since bar uses are typically allowed in commercial
districts and the proposed use is less intensive than the existing one at
this location.
Conditions:
That development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved site
plan, floor plan and elevation, except as noted below.
2. That the hours of operation shall be limited between the hours of 10:00 a.m.
and 11:00 p.m., Sunday through Thursday; 10:00 a.m. to Midnight, Fridays and
• Saturdays except during the months of December and January when the
opening hour will be 9:30 a.m. Saturdays and Sundays. Any increase in the
hours of the facility shall require an amendment to the use permit.
3. That the approval is only for the establishment of a bar type facility as defined
by Title 20 of the Municipal Code, with the principal purpose for the sale and
service of alcoholic beverages with incidental food service.
4. That live entertainment and dancing shall be prohibited, unless an
amendment to this use permit or other required application is first approved in
accordance with the provisions of the Municipal Code.
5. That this approval shall not be construed as permission to allow concerts or a
theater /nightclub use as defined by the Municipal Code, unless an
amendment to this use permit is first approved by the Planning Commission.
6. That all signs shall conform to the provisions of the Municipal Code.
7. That the proposed bar facility shall conform to the requirements of the Uniform
Building Code, including State Disabled Access requirements, unless otherwise
approved by the Building Department.
8. That the placement and use of the skill games (pool tables or other
amusement devices) shall be in accordance with the provisions of Chapter
5.34 of the Newport Beach the Municipal Code and the appropriate permit
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shall be obtained from the Revenue Manager. Further, that the facility shall be
limited to a maximum of 6 skill games and one juke box, as defined by
Chapter 5.34 of the Newport Beach Municipal Code.
�. That all mechanical equipment shall be screened from view of adjacent
properties and adjacent public streets, and shall be sound attenuated in
accordance with Chapter 10.26 of the Newport Beach Municipal Code,
Community Noise Control.
10. That the area outside of the establishment, including the public sidewalks, shall
be maintained in a clean and orderly manner. The operator of the facility may
be required to provide periodic steam cleaning of the public sidewalks as
determined by the Public Works Department.
11. That the project shall be designed to minimize light and glare spillage onto
adjacent properties or uses. That prior to issuance of a certificate of
occupancy, the applicant shall demonstrate to the Planning Department that
the exterior lighting system has been evaluated and the light sources
redirected or shielded, and maintained in such a manner as to conceal the
light source and to minimize light spillage and glare to the adjacent
properties. That prior to issuance of the certificate of occupancy or final of
building permits, the applicant shall schedule on evening inspection by the
Code Enforcement Division to determine substantial conformance with the
intent of this condition of approval, the control of light and glare.
12. That storage outside of the building in the front or at the rear of the property
shall be prohibited.
13. That no outside paging system shall be utilized in conjunctionwith this facility.
14. That no temporary "sandwich" signs, balloons or similar temporary signs shall be
permitted, either on -site or off -site, to advertise the establishment. Temporary
signs shall be prohibited in the public right -of -way, unless otherwise approved
by the Public Works Department in conjunction with the issuance of an
encroachment permit or encroachment agreement.
15. That kitchen exhaust fans shall be installed in accordance with the Uniform
Mechanical Code and approved by the Building Department. That issues with
regard to the control of smoke and odor shall be directed to the South Coast
Air Quality Management District.
16. That the project will comply with the provisions of Chapter 14.30 of the
Newport Beach Municipal Code for commercial kitchen grease disposal.
17. That a wash -out area for refuse containers and kitchen equipment shall be
provided and the area drains directly into the sewer system unless otherwise
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approved by the Building Director and Public Works Director in
with the approval of an alternative drainage plan.
18. That the Planning Commission may add to or modify conditions of approval to
this Use Permit or recommend to the City Council the revocation of this Use
Permit, upon a determination that the operation which is the subject of this
Use Permit causes injury, or is detrimental to the health, safety, peace, morals,
comfort, or general welfare of the community.
19. That this Use Permit shall expire unless exercised within 24 months from the date
of approval as specified in Section 20.80.090A of the Newport Beach Municipal
Code.
2. SUBJECT: McDonald's Restaurant (John Lardas, applicant)
• Use Permit No. 3516 Amended
Mrs. Wood stated that the Planning Commission may wish to make a motion to
reconsider the action taken in regards to this item on April 10, 1997, as the applicant
• may not have received adequate notice of the Commission hearing of that date.
Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway to reconsider the motion approved
on April 10, 1997 for Use Permit No. 3516 as the applicant may not have been given
adequate notice.
Ayes: Fuller, Ridgeway, Kranzley, Selich, Ashley
Noes: none
Absent: Adams, Gifford
Abstain: none
3. SUBJECT: 2807 Newport Boulevard
McDonald's Restaurant (John Lardas, applicant)
• Use Permit No. 3516 (Amended)
Review of The Planning Director's determination that an amendment to the existing
Use Permit is required to allow the retention of 10 (ten) stools in the customer
ordering /service area.
Public Hearing was opened.
Mr. John Lardas, 2807 Newport Blvd., operator and applicant - apologized for not
being at the previous meeting and spoke on the issue of the stools. He explained that
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Item 2
UP No. 3516 A
Reconsidered
Item No. 3
UP No. 3516 A
Director's
Determination
Upheld
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anything he does at the store is okayed from the McDonald's Corporation. Based on
that approval from the corporation, he installed the stools. He stated he does not
understand the CUP nor the minutes. He stated the stools were put in for convenience
not to generate more business. Due to lack of business, he is trying to make it
convenient for the customers. People sit there but don't occupy a lot of time there.
The dining room had 32 seats when first opened, now it is down to 24 seats because
he re- distributed seating to make it less congested. When the additional stools were
put in, he didn't know he was in violation. It was brought to his attention upon receipt
of a letter from Ms. Temple. He continued stating he would like to keep the stools if
possible and would like to hear Commission's recommendations. He referred to Mr.
Ben Ortega, consultant with McDonald's, stating Mr. Ortega could go through the
CUP and those minutes.
Commissioner Ridgeway commented that the issue is not a land use issue, and it
would have been simple if the City ordinances had been respected. The issue is
disregard for the ordinance shown when the stools were installed without a
subsequent conditional use permit amendment.
Discussion proceeded referencing the questions regarding seating and purpose of the
enclosed service area, which were asked and answered during the meeting of
12/7/95 referencing the verbatim transcription attached in the staff report.
• Acting Chairperson Kranzley clarified with Mr. Lardas that he was present at the
December 7th meeting. During that meeting questions were asked if seating was to
be installed, and the answers were, no. Additionally, he continued, you were not in
compliance with the prior conditions until the morning of that meeting. That morning
you changed the ingress, egress signs. It was noted that the applicant had not been
in compliance from the period of time the restaurant opened until December 7th even
after repeated contact from city staff. Discussion ensued.
Commissioner Ridgeway stated that it appeared that there was always an intent to
have those stools installed in total disregard for what was discussed, deliberated and
voted on at that meeting. A representation has been made tonight that a
reallocation of seating has been made. Staff can not answer that. I can make a
motion to continue this and have Mr. Lardas make an application for a conditional
use permit that will allow for a review of the necessary arrangements.
Acting Chairman Kranzley clarified with Assistant City Attorney Clauson regarding the
hearing tonight as not regarding the use and the addition of seating, but rather a
review of the Planning Director's determination so any discussion of whether the stools
would be approved or not approved is not appropriate tonight.
Ms. Clauson stated as far as discussion, yes. Basically, the determination is, are they
required to remove the stools or are the stools in substantial compliance with the plans
submitted and the permit that was issued or are they required to amend the use
permit. Any discussion of subsequent items should be held for when the item has been
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noticed for a public hearing.
Commissioner Fuller clarified with Mr. Lardas that Mr. King represented him the night of
December 71h to which Mr. Lardas answered yes. The question that Mr. Kranzley asked
as noted in the testimony of the meeting relating to seating in the enclosure, Mr. King
answered that seating is not requested at all on this application. There was a second
statement regarding this same matter later during that some meeting.
Commissioner Selich then asked Mr. Lardas why there are no condiments on the
condiment counter to which Mr. Lardas answered the condiments were placed on
top of the trash containerthat was installed.
Commissioner Selich continued, stating then that the condiment area is not being
used the way it was intended on the application? Mr. Lardas answered, yes.
Commissioner Fuller asked about the reference in the testimony of the condiment
counter being the some as the store on Coast Highway. It is not the same, the stools
are being used for long term seating.
Mr. Lardas answered that the stools are not for long term eating. People who use the
stools use them for five minutes, then leave. In the dining area, they sit for a half hour.
is Napkin and straw dispensersas well as promotional items are on the counter.
Mr. Ben Ortega, Hogle- Ireland Inc., of Irvine distributed a fact sheet and floor plan to
the Commission.
Acting Chairperson Kranzley stated that the fact sheet is not appropriate to discuss as
parking and seating considerations are not being considered at tonight's hearing. This
information will be taken up if the applicant files for a new use permit. Discussion
tonight is whether McDonald's, as it stands right now, is in compliance with the original
conditions and with original intent of the CUP.
Mr. Ortega referenced the floor plan showing the proposed customer service area
and the existing dining room. No where is seating shown in either of these areas, he
looked at the CUP to find out if there was a limit for total seating or location of seating,
but found none.
At Commission inquiry, Mr. Ortega stated he read the staff report with the verbatim
minutes and has no question on what was discussed. He further explained that since
no mention was made as to the number of seating that the reallocation of seating
was not inconsistentor in violation of the CUP.
Public Hearing was closed.
Commissioner Selich stated he supports the original motion made at the last meeting.
It was clearly represented at the meeting of December 71h, that there was to be no
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seating in this area irrespective of floor plans, never any indication of a reallocation of
seating. He was particularly concerned about the seating as the condiment bar was
a rather odd looking appurtenance in this new customer service area. To not support
the original motion just continues to reward the applicant for not conforming.
At Commission inquiry, Ms. Clauson clarified the item has been reconsidered so a new
motion has to be made. The motion that was passed two weeks ago is null and void.
It can be re- introduced and voted on tonight. The motion made then was, "that the
Commission make a finding that this project, as implemented with additional seating
in the enclosed waiting area was not in conformance with the plans approved and
conditions of approval. Staff is directed to notify McDonald's that the additional
seating is to be removed within fourteen days"
Motion was made by Commissioner Selich that the Commission make a finding that
this project, as implemented with additional seating in the enclosed waiting area was
not in conformance with the plans approved and conditions of approval. Staff is
directed to notify McDonald's that the additional seating is to be removed within
fourteen days. Substitute Motion was made by Commissioner Ridgeway that the
applicant remove the seats within fourteen days or file for an amendment to the Use
Permit within fourteen days.
• Commissioner Fuller stated he supports the substitute motion. Mr. King misled the
Commission and if he did or didn't what are we going to do about it?
Commissioner Ashley stated he supports Commissioner Selich's motion. There has
been a violation of trust and Mr. Lardas has stated this evening that since the
restaurant has opened he has changed the configuration of seating that was
originally there, therefore there is a reduction in the number of seats. In as much as
the applicant has not conformed to the original use permit and put in stools that he
said he would not do through Mr. King, the only thing this Commission can do is to tell
him since they were erected illegally, they now have to be removed. If Mr. Lardas
wishes to re- install that which he never had the right to do in the first place, he can
return before the Planning Commission and apply for the right to reinstall them.
Acting Chairperson Kranzley clarified for the record that Mr. King was the
representative at that point in time (December7th, 1995) and the applicantwas in the
audience and was conferred with and was in agreement to what was said by Mr.
King.
Called for the vote of the Substitute Motion:
Ayes:
Fuller, Ridgeway
Noes:
Kranzley, Selich, Ashley
Absent:
none
Abstain:
none
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Called for the vote of the Original Motion:
Ayes: Fuller, Kranzley, Selich, Ashley
Noes: Ridgeway
Absent: none
Abstain: none
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS
a.) City Council Follow -up - Oral report by the Assistant City Manager regarding
City Council actions related to planning - At Council meeting of April 14th
approved on second reading were the Old Newport Specific Plan and the
Mesa Drive Re -zone; an amendment to the Zoning Code that would prohibit
the conversion of apartments to condominiums as well as the construction of
new condominiums on Balboa Island was initiated and will be heard by the
Planning Commission on May 8th. Also discussed was the Newport Center
Economic Opportunity proposals and, accepted in concept, the
development proposal for the expansion of Newport Center and Fashion
Island. Staff was directed to solicit proposals for consultant services to analyze
the conceptual plans as referenced in the staff report (copies distributed to
• Commission).
b.) Oral report by the Planning Director regarding Outdoor Dining Permits,
Specialty .Food Permits, Modification Permits and Temporary Use Permit
approvals- Outdoor Dining Permits were approved for The Ritz Restaurant and
Jackshrimp Newport, Inc. Modifications were approved for 258 Prospect St.,
619 Lido Park Drive, 165 Shorecliff Road, and 209 Fernleaf Avenue.
C.) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - Commissioner Selich reported that the EDC is now
refocusing its activities as many of the original goals and objectives have been
met. Trying to present a more balanced image of the EDC as residents of
Newport Beach as opposed to the perception of being too business oriented,
is one of the priorities. Reports will be forthcoming on how the EDC will be
setting and implementing new goals and objectives.
d.) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Balboa Peninsula
Planning Advisory Committee - Speak Up Newport will be presented on May
7th at 6:00 p.m. as part of the community outreach. Meetings have been held
with various groups that have been formed to address some of the specific
issues brought up in Project 2000. The financing plan will be brought up at the
Council meeting on April 28th for consideration.
e.) Matters which a Planning Commissioner would like staff to. report on at a
subsequent meeting - Commissioner Fuller has suggested that any new
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conditions and findings be italicized to show the difference from the original
conditions and findings in the staff report. This would facilitate members to
recognize changes and approve the minutes of the meeting.
f.) Matters which a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - none.
g.) Requests for excused absences - Commissioner Ashley to be excused from
May 81h meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: 8:05 p.m.
ED SELICH, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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