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AUGUST 10, 1938.
THE H WONT BF,ACH CITY PLANING OMISSION met `in special
session Wednesday, August 10, 1936' -et 7:30 p.m, in the
Council Chambers, City Hall; Chairman Hopkins presiding.
Meeting called to order by the Chairman.
Secretary stated that this was a special meeting regular-
ly called and advertised.
Cha#smaa stated =that if'there�ws no 4jicWi
the members, a consent for the pall for and `.the heldin8_
of this meeting would be signed by all members. U-Isbiection.
ROLL CALL -
Commissioners present: Hopkins, Seeger, Williams,
Briggs, Patterson, Whitson.
Commissioners absent: 'Schnitker, Findlay, Hodgkinson.
Building Inspector Nelson attended,
Mr. and Mrs. D. D. McCallum appeared before the commis
Sion for information in regard to building an apartment over ;
their garage to be occupied by a member of their family.
Their house is in an R -1 zone.
Chairman Hopkins informed them that it would be possibl e
to construct sleeping quarters, but that if akitchen is in-
cluded in the apartment, it would disclose intent to main-
tain a separate dwelling and could not be allowed in an,-R-1
• Zone.
Chairman stated that this meeting was called for the
purpose of holding the first public hearing on the matter
of the Program of Municipal Improvement for which a bond
issue will be submitted to the electorate of the City of
Newport Beach.
COMMUNICATIONS
Letter from Mr. Maskey containing suggested improvements
for the West Newport Area was read by the Secretary:
Com. Patterson moved that this communication be', filed..
Seconded by Com. Williams.
Motion carried and so ordered.
Secretary read a communication from the City Council
referring to the Planning Commission for consideration and
recommendation an application from R. G. Blake fer`lidense
to conduct a Museum exhibit portraying Western Life.
Chairman ruled that this matter must be taken; up as
a variance since construction of buildings to house the
musuem is involved.
• Com. Seeger moved that the Secretary be instructed to
assist Mr. Blake in properly filing application for variance
and that the City Council be informed of this action.
Seconded by Cam. Whitson.
Motion carried and so ordered.
FIRST HEARING ON PHOCHAMOP MUNICIPAL IMPROVEMENTS -
The Secretary stated that no official communication
referring to the Commission for reconsideration the recom-
mendations submitted by the Commission to the City Council
had been received; therefore, there was no matter officially
before the commission for its consideration. The Secretary'_;
stated, however. -that he had been present at the session of
the City Council when such action was taken and so verbally
reported; whereupon it was decided that reconsideration would
be undertaken pending the receipt of the official cosmunica
tion. from the City Clerk.
Chairman declared the meeting open for discussion and
invited anyone present to speak on this matter.
Mr. Spi car . said he wished to ask 2 questions: (1) Does
not the Planning Commission think the item of Lighting in
'West Newport is costing too much money? He suggested that
bracket lights should be installed on the poles already
there. (2) Has the proposition of constructing abridge on
Marcus Ave. as suggested by Mr. Maskey been tabled?'"
Chairman Hopkins said that it had been tabled because
there was not sufficient time to consider this proposition
No further discussion.
Com, 'Whitson moved that this matter be sent to second
hearing. Seconded by Com. Briggs. Motion carried and so
• ordered by the Chairman.
Chairman declared the hearing continued to the neat
advertised date, August 24, 1938•
TENTATIVE APPROVAL OF PLANS FOR THE CITY HALL -
Chairman Hopkins stated that the Planning Commission
should now consider the tentative approval of the ,plans for
the City Hall, as this is necessary before application can
be filed with P.W.A.
Mr. R. K. Harvey, associated with Donald Beech Kirby as
a structural engineer, -displayed the plans and explained than
to the commissioners. He stated that the architect had been
instructed by the City Council to include the Fire. Station
in the plans.
Com. Seeger said the commission could not consider the
Fire Station as it has not been advertised.
Discussion followed as to whether the 'Chamber of Com-
merce should be housed in the City Hall.
Chairman Hopkins said there was a question as to whether
an outside organization should be housed in the City Hall.
It is a eimi- public, not a public organization.
• Com. Whitson was very much in favor of providing a room
in the City Hall for the Chamber of Commerce.
Com. Patterson did not favor it. Some space.for city
departments has been cut down . in order to include the Chamber
of Commerce room. The Chamber of Commerce is no function of
the City Government and might interfere with city government.,
as the chief function of the Chamber of Commerce is
advertising and that has no place in the city Hall.
Com. Seeger said that in &-city of this size it might
be economically expedient to house,=the Chamber-of Oommarcq
in the City Hall until they have'meane enough to build
• their own building however, that is not the logical place
for the Chamber of Commerce. It might create a feeling of
resentment in the public mind. _
Chairman Hopkins said that a separate office for the
Chamber of Commerce had advertising value. might be
submerged if placed in the City Hall. He would rather leave
the space_ unassigned in the tentative plane.
By common consent, the space assigned to the Chamber
of, Commerce was marked suaaesigned" on the plans.
Com. Seeger moved that the Planning Commission tentat-
ively approve the plane for the City Hall and Jail Annex as
presented, for the purpose of making application to the
P.W.A. for funds. Seconded by Com.Whitson.
Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman.
APPROVAL OF PLOT PLAN
Plotyplan showing location of City Hall, Police and
Fire Stations and possible future public buildinge'as drawn
by Donald Beech Kirby was presented for discussion and appro-
val.
Com. Seeger thought the adjoining property should be
included in the Civic Center.
Chairman stated that the Commission is discussing
a plot plan in connection with the City Hall only at this
time.
Com. Patterson said that he was figuring as Stems of
cost & 20 ft-cement sidewalk approximately 160 ft:, long,
cement curbing and the paving of a newly dedicated street,
also ornamental planting of the grounds; therefore, it was
appropriate that the plot plan should be discussed in con -
nection with the project.
Com, %Whitson did not favor setting the City Hall
back so far as the maintenance on the property in front of
the building would be too high.
Mr. Harvey explained that the City Hall.had been so
located in order not to screen other buildings contemplated
in the future.
Com.. Seeger moved that the plot plan pretaiaing to
the location of-the City Hall be approved as presented.
Seconded by Com.Whitson.
Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman.
. SELECTION OF PROJECTS TO BE INCLUDED IH THE PROGRAM OF
'ICIPAL IMPROVEMENT -
There was presented for consideration a selection of
projects to be included in the program, of municipal improve
meat with approximate costa of each project and amounts which
might be expected from the government and the amounts wDich
the city would have to furnish. {Cepy- s8baehsd- ie -iheee
miatsees}
Chairman stated that these amounts were approximate
estimates of cost and made only as an illustration for the
information.of the commission and the public. Eliminating
the item of the public landing at Balboa coating $63,600 and
the $28,500 item d lighting in the Newport area, illustrates
what will have to be done if we are to keep within %the figure
of $461,000 recommended by the Cosmittee of Seven.(Executive
Committee of the Committee of fifty)
Com. Seeger moved that the Secretary be instructed to
make typewritten copies of this itemised list and furnish a
copy to each member of the commission for study. Seconded
by Com. Patterson. Motion carried and so ordered.
(Copy attached to minutes of August 11)
Com. Seeger said he considered this matter of too
much importance to make snap judgements on which items to
eliminate. He favored giving the commission time to think
the matter over.
Com. Patterson said he must know which projects to
work on in order to prepare his estimates to be submitted to
the P.W.A.
Com. Briggs considered the Newport pier one of the
best assets Newport Beach has and the item of repair of
great importance. The lighting in Newport he considered a
local problem and one which should be taken care of locally.
Com. Seeger thought the items of the public landings
at Balboa and Corona del Mar could be eliminated and taken
care of in another manner. The statutes provide for the
government of this harbor by the Board of.-Supervisors of
Orange County or a Harbor Commission appointed by them.
These improvements to the harbor could be taken care of by
them, then the expense of same would be born by the Harbor D-
istrict rather than by the City of Newport Beach.: Be felt
that the Board of Supervisors would appoint a.Harbor Com-
mission if the City requested it. He did not want to vote
on eliminating this item, however, until he was more eoneer&-
ant with the possibility of getting the improvements by that
means." The landing at Balboa is a valuable adjunct to the
community and should not be eliminated until we can see a
possibility of securing favorable action by the Orange County
Harbor District.
( 1- Com. Williams moved that the Commission agree that
( the Newport pier should be reconstructed-at the approximate )
( cost of $25,000. Seconded by Com. Briggs. )
' ( Roll Call: )
( Ayes: Hopkins, Williams,, Briggs, Patterson, Whitso$,
( Noes: Seager. ))
( Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman.
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Upon motion of Com.Seager, seconded by Com. Briggs
and carried, the above motion was recinded and ordered
stricken from the records. (Minutes of August 11)
( 2- Com. Briggs moved to eliminate the items of lighting)
( in the Newport area. Approximate cost, $29,500.
( Seconded by Com. Williams.
( Boll Call:
( Ayes: Hopkins, Williams, Briggs, Patterson,
( Hoes: Seeger, Whitson. )
{ Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman.
Upon motion of Com. Seeger, seconded by Com. Briggs
and carried, the above motion was recinded and ordered
stricken from the records. (Minutes of August 11)
( Com. Seeger moved that the commission adjourned to one ;)
*ask from tonight, August 17th, 1939. Seconded by Con. Whitson)
( Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman. )
Upon appearance of Attorney Thompson, the above motion, IF
common consent, was ordered recinded and stricken from the
records, and the Commission re- convened.
Attorney Thompson informed the commission that this
could be considered only a preliminary hearing, as the program
had not been properly formulated and ordered to hearing.
After mach discussion, it was decided that Attny. Thompson,'
Com. Patterson, and the Secretary would meeVIthe following
morning and prepare the program of contemplated improvements
for presentation to the Commission for its consideration;
whereupon Com. Briggs moved that the Commission hold a joint
meeting with the City Council at 10 A. M. August 11 is the
Council Chambers and that this meeting adjourn to that time.
Seconded by Com. Whitson.
Motion carried and so ordered by the Chairman.
Respectfully submitted,
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I hereby waive the customary written notice
of a meeting of the Newport Beach City Planning:
Commission held August 10, 1938 and consent to the
holding of same upon verbal notice which I have
received.
.Ul1L�
-old Hopkins, R. Patterson
Chairman
vCiicGL�l1 _
Howard W. Seager, Elmer B. Whitson
Secret
Della Williams Schnitker
Fred W. Briggd
Gordon B: irindla
Roland R. Hodgki s n �
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