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• Planning Commission Minutes
September 9, 1999
Study Session Meeting - 6:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners Fuller, Tucker, Ashley, Selich, Gifford, Kranzley and Hoglund.
Commissioner Hoglund arrived at 6:10 p.m.
STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Z. Wood - Assistant City Manager, Economic Development
Dan Ohl - Deputy City Attomey
Rich Edmonston- Transportation and Development Services Manager
Ginger A. Varin - Planning Commission Executive Secretary
Patrick Alford - Senior Planner
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SUBJECT: Newport Center EIR Notice of Preparation
Planning Commission review and comment on the Notice of Preparation for
the Environmental Impact Report being prepared for the Newport Center
General and Specific Plans.
Assistant City Manager Sharon Wood commented that this the first of two
meetings that are planned for the Notice of Preparation for the Environmental
Impact Report. The second meeting will be held on Tuesday, September 14,
1999 at 7 p.m. in the City Council chambers. Mrs. Wood explained they
wanted to have a special session for the Planning Commission because the
Commissioners have indicated their interest in having study sessions on this
project as we go along.
Mrs. Wood introduced the consultant team. For Project Management,
preparation of the General plan amendment and zoning document, the City
has retained the firm of Hogle- Ireland. Hogle- Ireland has been working with
City staff on phase I to get the project going. The contract for their
continuing efforts is going to the City Council on Monday, September 13,
1999. Mrs. Wood introduced Larry Hogle, a principal of the firm, Roger Green,
the Project Manager and Ray Brantley who will be managing the EIR process.
. Mrs. Wood noted that a representative, Jason Brandman, from the
environmental firm that was selected to do the environmental impact report,
Michael Brandman and Associates, was in attendance this evening.
Mr. Brantley commented that they were present this evening to receive
questions and clarify any issues that the Planning Commission had with regard
to the environmental review process and also, as part of the scoping process,
to obtain input from the Planning Commission as well as members of the
public who are in attendance at this meeting.
Mr. Brantley noted that any specific questions regarding the project itself, that
is the proposed physical development, will be addressed by Roger Green or
Larry Hogle.
Mr. Brantley stated that a Notice of Preparation was distributed to the public
in the middle of August. The California Environmental Quality Act requires all
lead agencies, in this case the City of Newport Beach, to initiate a Notice of
Preparation process for input for the scoping of environmental impact reports.
With regard to this particular project, the 30 days are up on September 15,
1999. As part of the process, input is also being solicited from various state,
regional, national as well as other jurisdictions, and residents. Mr. Brantley
explained that the format for the meeting next Tuesday will be less formal with
charts from which members of the public may identify concerns and issues
that they may have with the project. Those concerns and issues will be
• placed on flip charts so that everyone can identify the composite of those
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concerns
Commissioner Fuller asked where the Avocado North site is as it is not on the
map. He asked if it could be identified on the map. Mr. Green responded
that they would add it to their maps.
Commissioner Fuller then referred to handwritten page 29 and asked where
the 166 residential units in the Newport Beach Country Club were located.
Mr. Green responded there is a preliminary site plan, which he did not bring
this evening, from the property owner and he could not answer as to the
exact location. Mr. Green noted that he thought they would be located near
the main entrance of the country club area where the clubhouse is located.
Mrs. Wood commented that she thought they were more oriented to the
tennis courts rather than the golf course.
Commissioner Fuller referred to block 500 and noted that the proposed
addition is 450,000 square feet and asked if that would be an 18 -story
building? Mr. Green commented that his understanding was that it would be
a 20 -story office building. Commissioner Fuller directed attention to
handwritten page 16, in the middle of the first paragraph where it requests an
18 to 20 -story office building. He stated he was not sure if that was 18- stories in
block 500 and one in block 700. Mr. Green commented that for block 500,
The Irvine Company is proposing a 20 -story office building. For block 700 it
would be an 18 -story building. Commissioner Ashley interjected that perhaps
there was an error and perhaps there would be an 18 -story building in block
500 and a 20 -story in block 700? Mr. Green stated that what he hears from
The Irvine Company representatives is that there will be an 18 -story office
building in block 500. Mr. Green confirmed that the building in block 700 is
also 18- stories. Commissioner Fuller referred to the first paragraph on page 16
and asked what was the 20 -story referred to? Mr. Green stated that is an error
in the document and will be corrected on future documents.
Commissioner Fuller referred to block 800 and the 180,000 square foot
structure and asked how many stories it would be. Mr. Green responded that
it is a 14 -story office building.
Commissioner Fuller referred to block 600 with 150 residential units and asked if
that would be apartments? Mr. Green responded that is correct.
Commissioner Ashley for clarification, commented that the Commission was
asked to review the General Plan process as a focus on planning goals and
concepts and not to become specific on block by block allocations. In other
words to make generalizations as to what we would like to see materialize in
the Newport Center area. On handwritten page 29, there is some reference
to the gross square footage summary, and it is on a block by block basis. If
• we are to ignore that, even though it is before us, and only focus on
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concepts, goals and generalizations, how do we do that? Mrs. Wood
responded that we are trying to do some of each in this project. There were
a number of individual General plan amendment applications submitted,
and they were initiated by the City Council. We have a duty to proceed with
those through the review process. The Planning Commission and City Council,
during the joint study session, decided to combine all those specific projects
into one comprehensive look at Newport Center. We are looking at the
specific things over the near -term because those are requests that
developers and property owners have made. Mrs. Wood stated that they are
also looking at the longer term for Newport Center, and that is what will be
done in a more general policy oriented way, trying to get away from our
existing method of allocating square footages block by block. Commissioner
Ashley asked if they could look at both in fact as this process proceeds, and
at the end, it will all be reduced to an overall concept plan for Newport
Center that can become a part of the amended General Plan? Mrs. Wood
responded the long -range part of it, yes. But there will also be either a
specific plan or a planned community document, some kind of zoning
regulation document that will be unified for all of Newport Center for the
nearer -term development that we know the specifics on now because we
have property owner driven applications.
• Commissioner Ashley asked if they are planning development agreements
with the various owners of the property in Newport Center to establish that
they will be able to get the kinds of densities or intensities that will come from
this General plan amendment process. Mrs. Wood responded that they are
assuming that each of the property owners who have a General plan
amendment application will want a development agreement to protect any
entitlement that is approved. Mrs. Wood emphasized that they are thinking of
those only in terms of the nearer -term things that will be included in whatever
kind of zoning amendment we do and not for the longer -term plan general
concept, which will not be that specific property by property.
Chairman Selich commented that he feels it is important for the Commission
to keep in mind that they are doing a comprehensive zoning document
along with the General plan amendment. Chairman Selich noted that they
had talked about combining all the various planned community regulations
into one comprehensive zoning document and therefore, views this at the
level of a specific plan level as opposed to a general plan level.
Commissioner Tucker referred to the retail segment in Fashion Island. He
noted it is his understanding that The Irvine Company presently has 285,000
square feet of entitlement that is not built, and they are seeking another
200,000 square feet in Fashion Island, which is 485,000 square feet of
additional space that could be built in Fashion Island. Commissioner Tucker
commented that he would like to have some sense as to what is the concept,
• rather than just approve 485,000 square feet. Commissioner Tucker expressed
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concern about the ambiance of the retail segment of Fashion Island, and
asked where is the 485,000 square feet going to go, how is it going to fit in with
what is already there? If there are more benign general retail uses versus high
traffic retail uses; it will certainly change the needs for where the parking
would go, how much more parking is needed. Commissioner Tucker noted
that there are places in Fashion Island, as more restaurants are being added,
where it is difficult to find parking, and there are other places where it is not so
difficult. Commissioner Tucker commented that as part of the overall
environmental impact report, they would need more specifics on how the
retail is going to fit together. Commissioner Tucker expressed that overall the
parking in Fashion Island needs to be looked at to make sure the parking
ratios that work are based upon the uses that are intended. Commissioner
Tucker commented that he is not demeaning anything The Irvine Company is
trying to do and stated he felt that they have done a fabulous job in making
Fashion Island a great location. Commissioner Tucker expressed that the
public needs to know what is in store in terms of what the feel of the project is
going to be.
Chairman Selich referred to the map and noted that he thought the map was
somewhat in error. Chairman Selich commented that he thought the triangle
on San Joaquin and Jamboree Road should be included as part of the
• project description as it fits within the geographical boundary. The Texaco
station is part of Fashion Island and has one of the entrance signs on it.
Commissioner Selich stated he would like expansion on how the traffic
analysis is going to be handled and what we will be doing there. Mr. Brantley
commented that, for the traffic study, the City has hired consultant Austin -
Faust to update the model for the traffic study to be prepared for this project,
and to include the additional square footage being requested. The traffic
study is intended to look at a range of alternatives and parking management
and parking requirements for Newport Center. They are starting to get that
process under way now. Chairman Selich asked if anything is being done to
document traffic generation coming out of existing Fashion Island as part of
that study or are standard criteria being used? How is that going to be
handled? Mr. Brantley commented it is something they could look at as part
of the preparation of the traffic study. Chairman Selich noted that it seems
there is a lot of synergy between a lot of the uses at Fashion Island and that
perhaps some of the standard traffic applications are not applicable. Mrs.
Wood stated that she thought The Irvine Company has done some research
into that question and will be providing us with some information.
Commissioner Ashley commented, from the point of view of being somewhat
pro- active, that he has heard a great deal of sentiment in this community
expressing the need for more housing in Newport Center and perhaps less
commercial development (aimed more at office development).
Commissioner Ashley noted that in many ways, residential development is
• very compatible with office development in terms of parking. He wondered if
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there is going to be room in the general plan analysis that is going to be
proposed for consideration on a pro- active basis for residential development
in Newport Center as an alternative to some of the things that are being
presently proposed by landowners? Mr. Brantley commented, if it is the
sentiment of the Planning Commission, for inclusion in the environmental
impact report, they could definitely consider that in terms of the alternatives
that are selected for analysis. Mrs. Wood stated she thought that could be
done either for the short-term, or since the property owners have not
proposed very much residential over the short-term, that could be another
thing to be looked at for the long -term general plan study for Newport
Center. Chairman Selich asked Mrs. Wood if the way they were forming their
alternatives was in a manner that they would need direction from the
Commission to include that as an alternative? Mrs. Wood responded that
they were still developing the alternatives and will be continuing to develop
them as they receive some of the preliminary analysis and environmental
information. She stated that it would be her preference not to have the
Commission direct them to include a residential alternative at this point. Ms.
Wood commented they would like direction to analyze and look at it and
they could come back to the committee and perhaps to the whole
Commission with some of the preliminary analysis then see if it makes sense to
everyone to have that as an alternative. Chairman Selich asked Mrs. Wood
• to note Commissioner Ashley's concern and if it does not take any action by
the Commission? Mrs. Wood responded that was fine.
Commissioner Ashley commented on the senior center, the Oasis, in Corona
del Mar and funded by the City of Newport Beach. The Oasis Senior Center
has made a survey of the senior citizens who are members of the Center to
talk to them about their present housing situation. Commissioner Ashley noted
that the survey has indicated to the Oasis management that the cost of
housing is continually increasing. People, who are already on Social Security
income and other kinds of pensions, do not have the ability to keep up with
the soaring rents and costs. They have been asking for a senior housing
center to be developed, especially at Newport Center. Commissioner Ashley
expressed that The Irvine Company observed the same thing and proposed a
senior housing center in what is called Newport Village. Recently there have
been counter proposals that the Newport Center library would like to establish
a cultural auditorium, parking structure and additional area adjacent or
contiguous lot at Newport Center. The proposal would occupy some of the
12 -acre property, approximately 3- acres. Commissioner Ashley commented
that there is another counter proposal from the City Council that has
indicated that since The Irvine Company dedicated the property to the City,
they would like to see the property put to a park. There is a lot of competing
interest for this site. Commissioner Ashley stated that he would side with the
idea that it should have been a senior center. It is directly across the street
from medical office complex, a block from the public transportation center, a
• block from the public library, adjacent to shopping and grocery store.
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Iheretore, it has a lot of the tocilities that seniors need to get around as a
pedestrian. Commissioner Ashley stated that he considers this the best
location in the City for a senior center, Newport Village. Mrs. Wood
commented that all three of the uses mentioned would need be analyzed as
alternatives because they have all been proposed and are being discussed.
Commissioner Tucker referred to handwritten page 29, the paragraph after
paragraph 8. It says that a number of property owners have outlined
additional development on their property, and the last sentence says "...This
level of development and a small additional amount to allow for minor
additions will be included in the zoning document." Commissioner Tucker
commented that there is 1,330,000 square feet plus 166 residential units,
approximately. Commissioner Tucker asked if this is suggesting what is going
to be approved? He asked if the environmental document is being done
assuming that and it comes back to a hearing to decide what gets
approved? Mr. Green agreed with Commissioner Tucker's last statement.
Commissioner Tucker referred to Development Agreements where it says it is
anticipated that most property owners requesting additional square footage
will want to enter into a development agreement as part of this process.
Commissioner Tucker asked what the City would get in return? Mrs. Wood
• commented that specifics have not yet been discussed. Mrs. Wood noted
that typically there have been circulation improvements above and beyond
what would be required just from the traffic generated from that project. In
the past, the City has received open space in that fashion. Commissioner
Tucker asked if there was a quid pro quo for that? Mrs. Wood responded
definitely.
Commissioner Tucker commented on the form itself. He noted the words
'potentially significant impact' are used in some places when it really should
be 'potentially significant unless mitigated.' Commissioner Tucker suggested
comparing the checklist with the text. He commented that several were not
consistent in the text versus the boxes that were checked.
Commissioner Tucker referred to the Transportation and Traffic, "...complete
study and model update will be performed consistent with standards of the
City of Newport Beach requirements." Commissioner Tucker presumed this
would be to judge the impacts of the additional footage on the entire city?
He asked what the model calls for now, how for does it go? Mrs. Wood
responded that the City's Traffic Engineer determines which of the
intersections need to be analyzed. Mrs. Wood commented that it is not for
the entire City but for a project of this magnitude it would be far- reaching.
Commissioner Tucker referred again to the 1,330,000 square feet plus the 166
residential units are what is going to be analyzed? Mrs. Wood responded that
would be called the project and there would be alternatives to that including
• a no- project alternative. That would be something either a little more intense,
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a little less intense, as well as whatever alternatives are put together for the
longer -range general plan proposal.
Chairman Selich referred to the paragraph that talks about a number of
property owners have outlined additional development on the property and
asked although it is not identified on the chart, are we considering the
proposal that is the office proposal by the Granville Apartments? Mrs. Wood
responded not as part of this project. She stated that was initiated separately
and is a much smaller project and is going through the review process
independently. Chairman Selich commented that he went to the site and
has difficulty envisioning a bigger office building than is already allowed on it.
He noted that he has a difficult time envisioning any office building that
would allow the site to be developed and fall within the design guidelines
that were setup on the entrance of Newport Center Drive. Chairman Selich
stated that, to him, it should be analyzed as part of what they are doing and
asked if it would be too late to include it here or if they could somehow get it
on a parallel - processing track to evaluate it at the same time. Chairman
Selich expressed that it is very important. Mrs. Wood commented that Patrick
Alford is the planner on that project, and he could let us know the status.
Commissioner Kranzley commented that he agrees that it should be included.
Chairman Selich stated he thought the staff did not include it because the
• square footage is so small but feels that even though the square footage is
small, it has a major impact on a major entry to Newport Center.
Commissioner Ashley asked if they should re -visit the 180 additional hotel
rooms that were already approved for construction in block 600?
Commissioner Selich noted that has already been approved, and this is a
pending general plan amendment. Commissioner Ashley commented that
there are impacts that will impact the traffic. Commissioner Ashley asked if
that would be examined? Mrs. Wood responded that it would be examined
in the cumulative analysis.
Patrick Alford, Senior Planner, commented that he did not have a lot to report
because, at this point, the application had not been filed. Mr. Alford noted
that the amendment has been initiated but the applicant has not filed the
general plan amendment. Mr. Alford pointed out that the applicant's
representative expressed a keen interest in the design of the building and
sees that as an offset to the additional square footage they are requesting.
Mr. Alford noted they might possibly be interested in the design guidelines. At
the initiation they were looking at an overlay as a vehicle which they could
put some of the design features in with the application for the increased
square footage.. Mr. Alford commented that the applicant might be
interested in joining in and addressing those design issues as well. Chairman
Selich commented that they should try and get it considered in what they are
doing.
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Public hearing opened.
Public hearing closed.
Chairman Selich thanked the consultants for making their presentation to the
Commission.
Public Comments opened.
Public Comments closed.
Study Session adjourned to regular meeting at 7:00 p.m.
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ADJOURNMENT: 6:45 p.m.
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