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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10/17/1974COMMISSIONERS 1m'T, Z,DTtm�`�5 (Present Moti on Al Ayes 0 Motion Al Ayes 0 x Ix Ix Ix Ix X CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH Regular Planning Commission Meeting Place: City Council Chambers Time: 7:00 p.m. Date: October 17, 1974 EX- OFFICIO MEMBERS R. V. Hogan, Community Development Director David R. Baade, Assistant City Attorney Benjamin B. Nolan-, City Engineer STAFF MEMBERS MINUTES James D. Hewicker, Assistant Director - Planning Tim Cowell, Advance Planning Administrator Joanne Bader, Secretary Minutes of the Regular Meeting of October 3, 1974 were approved as written. ITEM #1 Request to permit the construction of thirteen USE PER- attached single - family dwellings with related MIT NO. parking and landscaped areas, and the acceptance 1729 of an environmental document. Location: Lot 83, Tract 6230, located at 2330 Vista del Playa, on the north- easterly side of Vista del Playa, westerly of Vista del Oro in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R -3 -B- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach X Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. - 1 - WITHDRAWN FROM rALENDAR COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH m Mi�Z m <9 A RAM CALL October October r Motion A Ayes Motion All Ayes 0 MINUTES 17, 1974 ITEM #2 Request to subdivide 1.11 acres into thirteen TENTATIVE lots for attached single - family residential MAP TRACT development and one landscape lot. NO. 8680 Location: Lot 83, Tract 6230, located at WITHDRAWN 2330 Vista.del Playa, on the north- easterly side of Vista del Playa, FROM C -U—ENDAR westerly of Vista del Oro in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R- 3- B- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach Engineer: Valley Consultants, Inc., Huntington Beach X Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. ITEM #3 Request to permit the construction of nine USE PER - attached single - family dwellings with related MIT NO. parking and landscaped areas, and the acceptance 1730 of an environmental document. WITHDRAWN Location: Lot 90, Tract 5878, located at FROM 2122 Vista Entrada, westerly of CALENDAR Vista del Oro and easterly of Vista Entrada in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R- 4 -B -2- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach X Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. -2- COMMISSIONERS tT1r, Motion Al Ayes 0 Motion All Ayes L CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES October 17, 1974 Request to subdivide 1.65 acres into nine lots for attached single - family residential develop- ment and one landscaped lot. Location: Lot 90, Tract 5878, located at 2122 Vista Entrada, westerly of Vista del Oro and easterly of Vista Entrada in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R- 4 -B -2- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach Engineer: Valley Consultants, Inc., Huntington Beach X Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. ITEM #4 TENTATIVE MAP TRACT NO. 8682 WIITMDRAWN CALENDAR ITEM #5 Request to permit the construction of nine I USE PER - attached single - family dwellings with related MIT NO. parking and landscaped areas, and the acceptance 1731 of an environmental document. Location: Lot 125, Tract 5435, located at 1976 -1998 Vista Caudal, south- easterly of Vista del Oro and northeasterly of Vista Caudal in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R- 4 -B -2- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. -3- WITHDRAWN FROM CALENDAR COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH T y Z g T L CALL Motion Ayes • MINUTES October 17, 1974 ITEM #6 Request to subdivide 1.75 acres into nine lots TENTATIVE for attached single - family residential MAP development and one landscaped lot. TRACT NO. 8681 Location: Lot 125, Tract 5435, located at 1976 -1998 Vista Caudal, south- WITHDRAWN easterly of Vista del Oro and. FROM northeasterly of Vista Caudal CALENDAR in "The Bluffs ". Zone: R- 4- B- 2- P.R.D. Applicant: IDH, A Joint Venture, Costa Mesa Owner: The Irvine Company, Newport Beach Engineer: Valley Consultants, Inc., Huntington Beach X Planning Commission withdrew this item from calendar until the environmental impact report has been completed by the consultant and reviewed by staff. ITEM #7 Request approval of the Final Map of Tract 8762 FINAL to subdivide 45.770 acres into six Tots for MAP TRACT commercial development and one lot for a NO. 8762 common parking lot. APPROVED Location: Portion of Lot 3, Tract 7953, CONDI- located on property bounded by ' I�ONALLY MacArthur Boulevard, Von Karman Avenue, Birch Street, and Jamboree Road in Koll Center Newport. Zone: P -C Applicant: Koll Center Newport Owner: Same as Applicant Engineer: Raub, Bein, Frost and Associates, Newport Beach Community Development Director Hogan advised that the Tentative Map has been approved by the City Council. -4- COMMISSIONERS ,-% 1i CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES October 17, 1974 In response to the Commission's question as to whether the staff has reviewed the impact that the E.P.A. Parking Regulations will have on the development, Community Development Director Hogan advised that the staff has not reviewed this project in light of the proposed E.P.A. Regulations. He further stated that parking requirements for the project were reviewed and approved during the hearing on the Tentative Tract and are in accordance with the P -C zoning. Planning Commission discussed what grandfathering is involved in Environmental Protection Agency Regulations and Advance Planning Administrator Cowell stated that since the effective date of the E.P.A. Regulations has been postponed to June 30, 1975,, any d.exe.lopment initiated prior to that date would be exempt. Planning Commission questioned whether the applicant is aware of E.P.A. requirements and • Community Development Director Hogan answered that most developers have attended E.P.A. meetings and are aware of the requirements. Bill Frost of Raub, Bein, Frost and Associates, appeared before the Planning Commission on behalf of the applicant. Motion X Motion for approval of Final Map Tract 8762 All Ayes subject to the following condition: 1. That all the conditions of approval for the Tentative Map of Tract No. 8762 shall be fulfilled, except that Condition of Approval No. 6 may be deleted. Request to establish one building site and eliminate an interior lot line where one lot and a portion of a second lot now exist so as to permit the construction of room additions to an existing single family dwelling on the property. • Location: Lot 1015 and a portion of 1016, Tract 907, located at 106 Via Dijon on the southeasterly side.of Via Dijon between Via Lido Soud -5- ITEM #8 RESUB- DIVISION N0. 472 APPROVED CONDI- TMNA:LLY COMMISSIONERS (� m T %� m yw Plc Z P in A rei � T Motion All Ayes • CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES October 17, 1974 INDEX and the Centro Strada on Lido Isle. Zone: R -1 Applicant: Ernest L. and Joy A. Kostlan, Newport Beach Owner: Same as Applicant Engineer: Shelton & Assoc., Huntington Beach . Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and the applicant, Mrs. Ernest Kostlan, 106 Via Dijon, Newport Beach, appeared before the Planning Commission to discuss same. She explained that she desired to add a family room between her garage and house and concurred with the staff recommendation. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion for approval of Resubdivision No. 472 subject to the following condition: 1. That a Parcel Map be filed. ITEM #9 USE PER - Request to permit a "walk -up" and "take -out" bakery- restaurant facility within a commercial M� N0. building in Lido Village, and to waive a 7— portion of the required development standards (i.e., landscaping, parking, walls, etc.) APPROVED OND Location: Parcel 1 of Parcel 59 -17 (Resub- TIO�LY division No. 416) located at 3412 Via Oporto #3, on the easterly side of Via Oporto between Central Avenue and Via Lido in Lido Village. Zone: C -1 -H Applicant: Mr. William Cronacher - German Home Bakery, Newport Beach Owner: Donald M. Koll, Newport Beach Assistant Community Development Director - Planning Hewicker stated that the staff is of -6- COMMISSIONERS T T ` £ Y= T < Y 3 CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH October 17, 1474 MINUTES - -- "" INDEX the opinion that the three parking spaces that were provided for this space on the basis of its original intented use, as a retail space, would be adequate to serve the bakery with its one employee and that no additional parking is required on the basis of the take -out restaurant standards. He then stated that if the Commission does not agree with the staff recommendation, that perhaps the alternative approach would be to reduce the parking by 1/3 as was done in the case of Mione's Deli- catessen and Restaurant. Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter. Mrs. William Cronacher appeared before the Planning Commission and answered questions of the Commission relative to the number of tables located at the bakery; the reason her screen door is presently locked; and the amount of people employed by the bakery. • There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. Assistant Director - Planning Hewicker advised that under the Use Permit, the applicant is requesting to sell things such as sand - wiches, hot chocolate and coffee. Mrs. Cronacher then replied that she will not be selling sandwiches and that she only intends to sell pastry, coffee and ice cream. Planning Commission discussed the 30- minute time limit on the first two floors of the parking structure. Motion X Motion to reopen the public hearing. All Ayes Tim Strader, representing the Donald M. Koll Co., appeared before the Planning Commission to comment on the 30- minute time limit parking in the parking structure. He advised that the lower levels of the structure are limited to 30 minutes for the benefit of the bank • customers. He stated that it was decided it be would more sensible for people who come and leave the bank, rather than having to park at the top of the structure and having to drive all the way back down, creating a -7- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH Tp o tee„ to m � P N October 17, 1974 MINUTES INDEX traffic problem, to keep the limited -time customers on the first floors. Mr. Strader felt that this was a safer way .to operate the structure and that the higher levels are used by employees who are there all day. He stated that there is no designated parking, as such, in the structure and that although he would have liked to have had designated parking, the Planning Commission turned this down. Planning Commission questioned whether parking is being designated when two of the floors are limited to 30- minute parking. Tim Strader, then replied that this.time- limit parking is on the honor system and no check is made to see if people have parked there in excess of the limit. He then advised that at the City Council Study Session last week, the Council discussed that the German Bakery and Mione's are.not take -out restaurants as take -out restaurants were originally . designated by the City in the Take -Out Restaurant Ordinance. Mr. Strader felt.these businesses are more of an on -site feeding establishment and that the take -out restaurant requirements the City has are more for take -out restaurants such as McDonald's. He further stated that that is the type of operation that was originally conceived when the Take -Out Restaurant Ordinance was put into effect. He felt that at the present time, it would make sense to create a new category to respond to the type of operation that has occurred. Mr. Strader stated that the German Bakery is not designed or operated as a McDonald's, and to apply the McDonald's rule on the bakery would work a hardship on them. He advised that the City has acquired the Hoag lot and it will provide parking which could be utilized by employees of Lido Village as well as the Lido Shop which will be open in about a month. He then advised that they are planning to provide some type of tram service for the employees who would park there that would run in the morning and evening. Mr. Strader felt that there is • adequate parking available and that the bakery should be approved without the necessity of providing McDonald's -like parking. -8- COMMISSIONERS. r m z x n M£ P R4Q CALL Motion Ayes Noes otion 0 loti on yes oes n L.J CITY, OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES, October 17, 1974 INDEX There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the .public hearing was closed. X Motion to approve Use Permit No. 1738 subject X X K to the following conditions: X X X X 1. That development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved plot plan and floor plan. 2. That the application be amended to reflect the applicant's purpose, i.e., to limit the bakery's sale to bakery goods, beverages and ice cream. Motion Failed. X Motion for approval of Use Permit Ha _1738 sub- ject to the following conditions: 1. That development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved plot plan and floor plan. 2. That six additional parkin spaces be provided (for a total X Substitute motion for approval of Use Permit X X X X XK No. 1738 subject to the following conditions: X 1. That development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved plot plan and floor plan. 2. That ,three additional parking spaces be provided (for a total of 6). ITEM #10 USE PER - Request to permit the construction of drive -in banking facilities in conjunction with a MIT NO. proposed bank and to give credit for four 1739 of the required bank parking spaces with the drive -in units. APPROVED CONDI- 'Location: Portion of Lot 5, Tract 7953, TIONALLY located at 4100 MacArthur Boulevard on the northeasterly corner of MacArthur Boulevard and Von Karman -9- COMMISSIONERS • Motion All Ayes 0 Z m p m CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH October 17, 1974 MINUTES u nVv Avenue in Koll Center Newport. Zone: P -C Applicant: Koll Center Newport Number 5,' Newport Beach Owner: Same as Applicant Public hearing was.opened in connection with this matter and Tim Strader, representing the " Don Koll Co., appeared before the Planning Commission and concurred with the recommendations as set forth by the staff. City Engineer Nolan advised that the Traffic Engineer has worked in detail with the applicant to develop the best circulation layout, and that the Public Works Department is satisfied with the layout as it now stands. There`being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion to approve Use Permit No. 1739 subject to the following conditions: 1. That development shall be in substantial conformance with the approved plot plans and elevations. 2. That all identification and directional signs for the drive -up teller facility shall be approved by the Director of Community Development. PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO NEWPORT BEACH GENERAL PLAN ITEM # 11 -A Proposed amendment to the Circulation Element to change the classification of Bison Avenue GENERAL between Jamboree Road and MacArthur Boulevard PLAN from a primary road to a secondary road and /or AMENDMENI a relocation of the intersection of Bison NO. 3 Avenue and Jamboree Road, and /or other realignment of the street system in this area. NOT APPROVED Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and Chris Goelitz, 700 Bison Avenue, President of the Eastbluff Homeowner's Association appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that the Eastbluff Homeowner's Association wishes to continue to -10- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH 1 y p ROM CALL qW Motion 0 Motion Ayes Noes Motion All Ayes 0 MINUTES October 17, 1974 ."new m vci, be informed as to the plans for this intersection. She then voiced her appreciation for being notified of this meeting. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that this amendment to the Circulation Element, regarding Bison Avenue, not be adopted and that the Eastbluff Homeowner's Association continue to be notified as to the plans for this intersection. Commissioner Seely advised that he would like to see this designation changed from a primary road to a secondary road because of the level of development that is going into that area. He stated he does not see where serving as a through thoroughfare that particular extension of Bison has to remain as a primary artery, particularly when there are major arteries on either side. Commissioner Seely did not feel a realignment of the intersection is necessary. X Motion that the Planning Commission recommend X X X X X X to the City Council that this amendment to X the Circulation Element, regarding Bison Avenue, not be adopted and that the Eastbluff Homeowners Association continue to be notified as to the plans for this intersection. ITEM # 11 -B Proposed amendment to the Circulation Element, deleting the reference to the Dover Drive/ GENERAL Coast Highway intersection as a grade- separated PLAN interchange. AMENDMENI NO. 9 Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and, there being no one desiring APPROVED to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 899 recommending to City Council that the Circu- lation Element be amended to delete the third sentence on Page 8 referring to the "interchange" of Coast Highway with Dover Drive.. -11- L] Motion Ayes Noes 0 COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES: , October 17, 1974 r inuex ITEM # Proposed amendment to the Land Use and Residential 11 -C Growth Elements to consider alternate land uses for the property between Avon Street and Cliff GENERAL Drive at Santa Ana Avenue. LAIN AMENDMENT Public hearing was opened in connection with fl .—T-0— this matter and Virginia Herberts, 2949 Cliff Drive appeared before the Planning Commission. NOT She spoke in favor of retaining the R -1 zoning. APPROVED Don Williams, 2936 Cliff Drive, Secretary of the Newport Heights Homeowner's Association, appeared before the Planning Commission and advised that approximately six months ago he brought forth a petition signed by practically everyone in the immediate neighborhood. He stated that these persons were opposed to a height variance and a condominium that was at one time proposed for this area. He then stated that his position has not changed. He stated that by making an exception to this R -1 neighborhood, this will encourage others to also want exceptions o.n their property and that this chain reaction could grow to such proportions that it would be senseless to have a General Plan. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Following discussion, motion to retain the X X X X X X'"Low�Oensity" designation for the.p.ro.perty i.n X question, and, therefore, not .recommend the .proposed amendment to�the General Plan as listed. ITEM # lD Proposed amendment to the Land Use Element, for the property on the north side of the future GENERAL Corona del Mar Freeway, between Jamboree Road PLAN and MacArthur Boulevard, to include "Administra- AMENDMENT tive, Professional, and Financial Commercial" N0. 11 as designated uses, in addition to the current designation as "Retail and Service Commercial ". APPROVED Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and H. L. Caldwell, of Caldwell Associates, appeared before the Planning Commission and concurred with the staff report. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. -12- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES on,i Feu m p N October 17, 1974 ,uncv owc., Motion X Motion to recommend to City Council that an amendment to the Land Use Element be adopted, changing the designation of the subject property on the Land Use Plan to indicate that either "Retail and Service Commercial" or "Administrative, Professional, and Financial Commercial ", or a mixture of the two, is an acceptable use. Commission questioned that since there is no P -C for this area, would we use our 1 space for each 250 sq. ft. parking standard and would we have any required setbacks. Advance Planning Administrator Cowell replied that the subject property is currently in the unclassified district and that the action this evening, if adopted by the Planning Commission, would not change the zoning designation but would change the designation on the Land Use Plan. He further advised that after changing the designation on the Land Use Plan, alternative zoning possibilities could be • considered for the site and that it is likely that a P -C zoning would be recommended, which would require an overall development plan to be approved by the City. In response to the Commission's question as to whether there would be any developmental problems with this area being in the freeway alignment, Community Development Director Hogan replied that there are some severe developmental problems and that the staff does not believe this designation alters those problems in any way. He further stated that the freeway situation is one which is going to require to be looked at very .closely and that this will be one of the justifications for requiring a P -C. Motion X Amended motion to adopt Resolution No. 900 All Ayes recommending to the City Council that an amendment to the Land Use Element be adopted, changing the designation of the subject property on the Land Use Plan to indicate that either "Retail and Service Commercial" or "Administra- tive, Professional, and Financial Commercial ", or a mixture of the two, is an acceptable use, • with the understanding that P -C zoning will be established in the future. near -13- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES CALL7 0, October 17, 1974 Proposed amendment to the Land Use and Residentia Growth Elements, for the property at 617 Lido Park Drive, changing the land use designation from "Multi- Family Residential" to a designation which would permit an office building to be constructed. In response to the Commi.ssion's question, Advance Planning Administrator Cowell advised that this property is presently zoned C -2 and that no zone change would-be required for the requested use. He further advised that under current zoning they would not have to submit a .development plan to the Commission for the requested use; however, they are requesting a height exception and this will require Commission approval of the plans. Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and William A. Dudas, 611 Lido Park Drive, resident of Vista.del Lido, stated that most of the people who live in • .the building, who own their own apartments, are against this type of building. He stated that they feel this would increase traffic and even with off - street parking, after hours it is possible that the owners might lease out the parking. He then presented a petition signed by 36 persons who are opposed to the proposed office building. Bob Hallberg, 700 Lido Park Drive #1, Manager of Lido Village Trailer Park, appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that the residents of the trailer park are not present at this meeting because they were not notified of the hearing and that the residents of 621 Via Lido were also not notified. He then presented a petition signed by 26 persons who are opposed to the proposed office building. Mr. Hallberg advised that he personally is neutral on this project. In response to the Commission's question, Advance Planning Administrator Cowell advised that the state requirement for notification of a General Plan amendment is the posting of • an advertisement in a local newspaper at least 10 days prior to the public hearing. He added that, with General Plan amendments, proper owners within 300 feet of the site are not required to be notified, as in a zone change, -14- ITEM # 11 -E APPROVED COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES 0evire,1 m m October 17, 1974 sunry and there is no requirement that the property . be posted. Commissioner Agee suggested that property that is being considered for General Plan amendment be posted so that passers -by can become aware that the property is under public hearing. Commissioner Heather suggested that staff keep a list of homeowner's associations for condominiums. Russell Nelson, 29 Cabrillo - Lido Park, appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that he is in favor of a small office building in place of the existing hotel or in place of a multi -story apartment building. He advised that the neighbors to whom he has spoken are also in favor of the office building and felt that with an office building, .the weekends would be quiet. Mrs. Charles Painter, 611 Lido Park Drive, • Apt. 6 -D appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that she has no objection to an office building such as planned being built. She added that because most offices conduct business Monday through Friday, weekend traffic would be alleviated. Planning Commission advised Mrs. Painter that the traffic report suggested that the owner might lease out the parking to help the weekend parking problem. Barry Williams, one of the owners of the Lido Shores Hotel, appeared before the Planning Commission and advised that the hotel is 18 years old and that there is nothing there of any value, structurally or aesthetically, to cause the owners to renovate the structure. He then stated that the owners have chosen to suggest an office building because it seems to fit more compatibly with what is in the area. He then advised the Commission of other office buildings in.the area, i.e., the office building at the end of the strip on the Curci- Turner property, which Mr. Williams stated • doesn't seem to be a.problem, and the condominium office building on Lafayette which is approved but not yet built. He advised that the office building would consist of.about 17,000 square feet and that 65% of the building -15- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH Z P a V M October 17, 1974 MINUTES is pre- committed. He then reviewed the traffic situation in this area and added that he felt this office building would relieve traffic to some extent. He commented on the present parking situation and stated that people coming to their building will have assigned parking spaces and would be definitely off the street. Mr. Williams commented that he notified people of this public hearing in the high -rise to the north of Vista del Lido, Mr. Olmstead, Mr. Curci, Mr. Delaney, and the homeowner's groups he knew about. In response to the Commission's question relative to the proposed night lease, Mr. William explained that this came up because he is presently part -owner and occupant of a building on MacArthur Boulevard adjacent to Blackbeard's. He advised that since his parking lot is empty when their heavy parking problem comes up, they were asked to lease their parking. Mr. Williams advised that the owners did so since this adds additional income. With respect to the location of the proposed office • building,.Mr. Williams stated that the suggestion he made was an attempt to relieve an existing problem. He advised that when he had a meeting at Vista del Lido, the people expressed that they were opposed to his doing this because they felt it would make it possible for more commercial uses to be accommodated; therefore, he is prepared to lock it up at 6:00 p.m., if desired. Mr. Williams then discussed the magnitude of the height problem, reviewed the model of the proposed office building with the Commission and discussed the provision of restroom facilities for the boat slips. Jim Riddle, 700 Lido Park Drive, appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that office buildings create a very high traffic area. He added that in addition to the employees of the office building; callers to the office would provide a continuous turnover of traffic. He discussed parking requirements for boat slips and stated that he feels this area should be maintained residential. He • does not feel that mixing of residential and commercial is wise. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. -16- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH (1 m orWA rs„ �ni m m October 17, 1974 MINUTES IH pCx Motion X Motion to recommend to the City Council that the Land Use and Residential Growth Elements be amended to provide for "Administrative, Professional and Financial Commercial" uses as an alternate use in the area on the north- east side of Lido Park Drive, between 28th Street and Lafayette Avenue. Commissioner Beckley stated that by virtue of the petititioners, the Commission has a consensus feeling that traffic is the matter with which they are concerned. He added that the Commission does not have the results of the City Traffic Study that has been conducted in a recent period of time as a gauge of whether the development warrants the commercial classification, recognizing the apparent merits of it to some extent. Commissioner Beckley felt the Commission should wait until those traffic reports come in to have a basis for a decision. Planning Commission discussed Commissioner Beckley's suggestion. Motion X Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 901 Ayes X X X X X recommending to the City Council that the Noes X X Land Use and Residential Growth Elements be.amended to provide for "Administrative, Professional and Financial Commercial" uses as an alternate use in the area on the north- east side of Lido Park Drive, between 28th Street and Lafayette Avenue. Chairman Hazewinkel stepped down from the dais and refrained from deliberation on the next three items. Planning Commission recessed at 10:05 p.m. and reconvened at 10:15 p.m. -17- 'COMMISSIONERS MA A.� on Abstain Moon Ayes Abstain '�m2 P A � m z x 9 £ nom, y q„ � � T CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH October 17, 1974 MINUTES r „�ycA ITEM # Proposed amendment to the Land Use Element to 11 -F designate the south -east corner of Irvine Avenue and University Drive as "Retail and GENERAL Service Commercial ". PLAN AMEND - Advance Planning Administrator Cowell advised MENT that this General Plan amendment request has NO. 13 been rescinded by the property owner (The Irvine Company) and recommended that, since NOT the public hearing on this proposed amendment APPROVED has been advertised, the Planning Commission hold the public hearing. Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and Dave Neish, Manager of Planning Administration with the Irvine Company, appeared before the Planning Commission and offered to answer any questions the Commission may have. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion to recommend to the City Council that X X X X General Plan Amendment No. 13 not be adopted. X ITEM # 11-G. .Proposed amendment to the Land Use, Residential Growth and Recreation and Open Space Elements, GENERAL to revise the open space designations in the PLAN Harbor View Hills area by deleting the open AMEND - space "paseo" adjacent to the San Joaquin MENT Reservoir and by reducing the extent of the _NW714 open space designation on the southerly side of Spyglass Hills Road. CONTINUE[ TO Community Development Director Hogan explained OCT. 249 that the staff recommends this item be 974 continued to the Special Meeting of October 24, 1974 so that the decision on the General Plan amendment can be made concurrent (and consistent) with the decision on the Harbor View Hills P -C and the Tentative Tract. Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter, and there being no one desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion to continue this public hearing to the X X X X October 24, 1974 Planning Commission meeting. X -18- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH >� �n> ,D R CALL 0 Motion Ayes Abstain MINUTES October 17, 1974 mvcn ITEM # Proposed amendment to the Land Use Element, 1 for the property south of Farallon Drive and its extension to MacArthur Boulevard in Newport GENERAL Center, extending the "Recreational and Marine PLAN Commercial" designation, in conjunction with AMEND= "Administrative, Professional and,Financial MENT Commercial" as currently designated, northerly NO. 15 to Farallon Drive and its extension to MacArthur Boulevard. APPROVED Public hearing was opened in connection with this item and Dave Neish, Manager of Planning Administration with the Irvine Company, appeared before the Planning Commission and stated that the Irvine Company is requesting that the "Recreation and Marine Commercial" designation be extended to Farallon Drive. He further stated that this designation presently terminates at a point approximately 100 feet southerly of Farallon Drive. He felt that this amendment would coincide with the proposed Corporate Plaza and Newport Village developments. He advised that the existing line runs through the center of the developments. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 902 X X X X X X recommending to City Council that the Land X Use Element be amended to extend the "Recrea- tional and Marine Commercial" designation, in the southeast section of Newport Center, northerly to Farallon Drive and its extension to MacArthur Boulevard. Chairman.Hazewinkel returned to the dais. Proposed amendment to the Land Use, Residential ITEM 11 -I Growth, and Recreation and Open Space Element, deleting the open space "paseo" designation GENERAL PLAN along the westerly side of Marguerite Avenue and changing the designation of a parcel of land on the west side of Marguerite Avenue AMEND - MENT just north of Fifth Avenue from "Low- Density NO. 16 Residential" to "Recreational and Environmental Open Space ". NOT APPROVED -19- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH i on,�rell m p p N October 17, 1974 MINUTES INUCA Advance Planning Administrator Cowell pointed out the property in question on the map. Public hearing was opened in connection with this matter and Donald Sutherland, 703 -1/2 Marigold Avenue, Corona del Mar, appeared before the Planning Commission on behalf of Ron Yeo. He advised that on the Recreation and Open Space Map, this property is shown as "open space" and that they feel it has very strong environmental characteristics, i.e., very positive open space and it has a tremendous vista out onto the bay. He stated that they do not feel this should be interfered by any development and that a detailed analysis should be done. He then stated that he would like to see this reviewed by the Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Commission and be amended to the General Plan as "open space ". Dave Neish, Manager of Planning Administration with the Irvine Company, appeared before the Planning Commission. He advised that at the present time, the land is owned by The Irvine • Company and that he does not believe there is any development plans for this particular parcel. He concurred with the,staff recom- mendation that since it is presently not on the City's priority list as far as parks, either to be bought or dedicated to the City, that it be referred to the Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Commission. He further advised that if the Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Commission studies this and determines that it would be a good park site, then The Irvine Company would be willing to negotiate with the City regarding that parcel. Mr. Neish felt that rather than amend the General Plan, it would be an adequate solution to refer it to the Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Commission. He then advised of an inconsistency in the General Plan maps, i.e., the Land Use and Residential Growth maps show this land for low- density, while the Recreation and Open Space Map shows this parcel as "open space ". Advance Planning Administrator Cowell replied that the Land Use and Residential Growth Plans are correct and that the Recreation and Open Space Plan is inaccurate as a result of an inadvertent graphic error; however, the "open space" designations -on the Open Space Plan are not meant to be precise in terms of -20- COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH A ; Ro ALL m p `" October 17, 1974 Moti on All Ayes 0 `J MINUTES INDEX the exact locations of boundaries. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Following discussion, motion that the Planning .Commission recommend that this proposed amend- ment not.be adopted at this time, but that the Commission suggests to the City Council that this matter be referred to the Parks, Beaches, and Recreation Commission for review and " comment because of the unique opportunities that might be available on this site. Also, that this review be done sometime before our February, 1975 General Plan Amendments Session. ITEM # Proposed amendment to the Recreation and Open T1—J — Space Element to delete the proposal for public parking lots along Coast Highway in GENERAL West Newport. PLAN AMEND- Public hearing was opened in connection with TENT this matter and Suzanne Rudd, Secretary and N0. 17 Civic Affairs Chairman for the Newport Shores Association and President of the West Newport APPROVED Beach Improvement Association appeared before the Planning Commission to discuss same. She read two letters; one from Steve Drummy, President of the Newport Shores Community Association and the other from herself for the West Newport group. Both letters spoke in opposition to the proposed 2,000 additional recreational parking spaces as called for in the Recreation and Open Space Element of the General Plan and requested this proposal be deleted from the General Plan. Margot Skilling, resident of West Newport and member of the West Newport Beach Improvement Association as liaison to the Homeowner's Associations, appeared before the Planning Commission. She advised that she recently discovered that the people in the area were not aware that this is in the General Plan. She commented that she had spoken to the Balboa Coves Community Association and that they have indicated they are totally opposed to having the parking lot in this area. She further advised that Don Swango, President of the Association, advised her that a representative of the Association would be present tonight with letter; howeve -r, per her converstaion with the representative, he indicated he would -21- 'COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT 9 m 2 Z b m f October 17 1974 oeu.L r,& It m > BEACH MINUTES be unable to attend. She stated that she had spoken to John Durio, President of the Lido Sands Community Association, who also was not aware this was in the General Plan. Mrs. Skilling indicated that she did not understand how public hearings on the General Plan could be held, the Elements composed and after they are written, the communication stopped. She then requested that Pages 39 and 40 be stricken starting with Item 3 on Page 39 with no substitutions. Her reason being that the parking lot in question is on the north side of the highway and there is no way that anyone can cross there. She advised that it's relatively blind as a person comes down from the Arches and the on- coming traffic can't be seen. She advised that there is an S -curve as one goes past the Surf & Sirloin, and that traffic can't be seen from that direction either. She felt that this seems to be an unlikely place to put a beach parking lot. She then discussed the tram system and advised that the tram would also have to cross both • lanes of the Coast Highway. She advised that per her conversation with Lieutenant Blue of the Police Department, she was informed that two people have been killed on this highway in exactly that area in the past twelve months. Mrs. Skilling believed that if beach parking was provided and people had to wait for a shuttle bus or tram, they would walk since it is not that far a distance. She then discussed the danger involved in crossing the Coast Highway. She advised that other than having to cross the highway, there is also vehicular accessi- bility which she felt is rather bad. Mrs. Skilling brought notice to the portion -of the element which reads as follows: "4. The City will determine the desirable maximum capacity of the beaches and explore possible methods of limiting beach use to this capacity in order, to assure that over -use does not destroy the recreational and environmental value of the beaches. Implementation of Item 3 shall be held in abeyance until this Item 4 determination is accomplished." • She stated that soon thereafter, this had been implemented. She stated that the City Council has leased the temporary parking from the State -22- CUMMISSIONEKS y T = = c m m� T a T< 9 Z A P N YAU ref � m CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH October 17, 1974 MINUTES INVCA to use as a parking lot. She added that it will go into commercial usage but they do it on the rationale that it is already in our General Plan. Mrs. Skilling did not feel that this belongs in the General Plan because it is a specific. She advised of the possibility of the Parks; Beaches, and Recreation Commission putting in a tennis court there. She felt that as long as the General Plan specifically states that west of the Arches., north of the Coast Highway, below the Bluffs, this shall hold 1,750 car parkings, the City Js being binded. She then reviewed the beach usage and advised that the City has approximately 30,000 feet of waterfront. She stated that there are State standards that talk about beach usage per acres of sand, and standards that require ten foot square or 100 square feet per person. She used as an example that if a 30 -foot lot is considered and 30 people are on it those people are rather crowded. She stated that if the City has 30,000 feet, the City's capacity is just about 30,000 people. She • did not feel that the Department of Beaches in Sacramento can establish an 'formula acre or a square footage formula because just so many people can fit on the beach. She commented that she would not like to see private beaches but there's got to be something in between -- good reasonable usage that protects Newport Beach's residents. She advised that in her opinion the Planning Commission of Newport Beach should reflect Newport Beach; and that it behooves the City to try to do the best for the residents. Commissioner Heather advised that this is state right -of -way property, and recalled that as the.Commission was discussing the General Plan,.the, Commission wanted to rather preclude commercial development there and the language As written so that the City had the option should it be acquired by the State. Advance Planning Administrator Cowell advised that one of the considerations that was discussed was the potential problem of the type of development that could occur there, • if property were acquired for private development. He stated that there is a possibility of recreational open space or public use, perhaps trail systems and tennis -23- Motion 0 COMMISSIONERS A CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH October 17, 1974 MINUTES r INUCR courts. Mr. Cowell would not recommend a commercial designation as they wouldn't want to encourage further strip commercial. There being no others desiring to appear and be heard, the public hearing was closed. X Motion to recommend removal of the specific references to public parking lots from this Element and just retain a general statement about recreational open space. Community Development Director Hogan then advised of the reasons for the original designa- tion. He stated that for a long period of time it was considered that there needs to be some additional parking to substitute for, or add to, the parking that is now available in the very crowded areas of the Peninsula and West Newport. He further stated that the beach has been considered for a long time as a regional recreational resource and the City has accepted in many cases the obligation of helping to provide adequate facilities for the use of that regional recreational resource. He then advised that the major thing is to help the City relieve its own traffic problem that exists on the Peninsula and in West Newport by'providing parking elsewhere and hopefully to encourage the people who are presently travelling up and down the Peninsula hunting for non- existent parking spaces, to find parking spaces and to institute a desirable recreational tram service or transportation service of some kind which would move people from this parking lot or series of parking lots off the beach and onto places on the beach without adding to the traffic congestion. He then agreed with the presentation that was made that there is and should be a reasonable limit to the number of people that can use the beach. He felt it would be a mistake to provide parking in a location of this kind that would just make additional traffic if we don't somehow restrict the traffic that goes .up and down the Peninsula and goes in and out of West Newport. Mr. Hogan advised of one of the principles that the Coastal Commission has adopted that is coincident with the policy the City had when they made this designation, i.e., that off -beach parking facilities.should be provided wherever it is feasible in order to help alleviate the traffic congestion on -24- 0 n COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES October 17, 1974 or adjacent to the beaches. Commissioner Beckley brought notice to Balboa Boulevard and that if one looks at it in the off - season, there are 2,000 empty parking spaces; however, in the summer they will be filled. He advised that Newport Beach has a bad reputation for not being cooperative in the way of providing beach service to the public at large. He stated that what he thinks this really means is, in reality we fill our town on this yearly siege with people and we are literally providing 40- or 50,000 beach - goers a living place in a parking space. He stated that if you look at the number of feet or square feet that we have for the beach, and take the lifeguard's beach counts and compare those and look at the standards the state has set up for Huntington Beach which is immediately contiguous to us, you will find that we are over on the amount of actual public service we're providing by about a factor, two or three. He felt that perhaps we may have lost some sight of the things we actually accomplish and in•the original General Plan it was really meant, apparehtly';not strong enough worded, that the parking aspect there be secondary to the establishment of these very beach capacity numbers. He added that it's evident that we.are precariously close to having a beach parking lot; if we don't fill it up with people who are going to use Lido Center, come next summer that parking lot is going to be available and solicited for use by people coming in and then we have the contending safety problems facing us. He stated that it looks to him to be close to dangerous planning and hoped that the Planning Commission find it suitable to go with the recommendation of the citizen groups and get on with the beach analysis. Commissioner Seely suggested that the sentence in Item 4, which reads as follows, be used as Item 3 in place of the specific references to the parking: "The City will determine the desirable maximum capacity of the beaches and explore possible methods of limiting beach use to this capacity in order to assure that over -use does not destroy the recreational and environmental -25- COMMISSIONERS . f+ m q m 1 T Motion Al Ayes Motion All•Ayes CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH MINUTES October 17. 1974 " INDEJC value of the beaches." Planning Commission discussed Commissioner Seely' suggestion. X Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 903 recommending to the City Council that the Recreation and Open Space Element be amended to remove the specific references to public parking lots from this section and to replace Item 3 with the following sentence: "The City will determine.the desirable maximum capacity of the beaches and explore possible methods of limiting beach use to this capacity in order to assure that over -use does not destroy the recreational and environmental value of the beaches." ADDITIONAL BUSINESS ADDITIONAL Off -Site Parking Agreement in conjunction with BUSINESS the proposed Green Medallion Nursery. OFF -SITE Location: Lots 14, 15, 16 and 17, Tract 1210, PARKING located at 600 West Coast Highway, AGREE - on the northerly side of West Coast MENT -- Highway, across West Coast Highway GREEN from Bayshores. EDALLION NURSERY Zone: C -1 -H APPROVED Applicant: Harold Hirsch, Oceanside Community Development Director Hogan advised that this proposal is to develop a nursery at the location of the former "Mr. Britches" clothing store and to have one of the adjacent lots developed with a covered trellis for the use of the nursery. He then stated that the other three lots would be used to provide the necessary parking. Mr. Hogan advised that the staff approves of the circulation plan. X Following discussion, motion to recommend to City Council approval of an Off -Site Parking Agreement, guaranteeing that a minimum of nine parking spaces shall be provided on Lots 14 and 15 of Tract 1210 for the duration of the nursery use on the property in question. -26- `COMMISSIONERS CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH m D T I>= a y MINUTES p October 17, 1974 Motion X Planning Commission adopted Resolution No. 89E All Ayes setting a public hearing for November 21, 1974 on the revision of the Zo.ning Ordinance to permit temporary uses subject to, a Use Permit. Commissioner Hazewinkel requested and received permission to be excused from.the October 24, 197 Special Meeting. (Motion III I I I I I I There being no further business, Planning All Ayes Commission adjourned at 11:30 p.m. JAM PARKER, Secretary Planning Commission City of Newport Beach -27-