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City Council Special Meeting
September 12, 2012 — 7:00 p.m.
I. ROLL CALL - 6:30 p.m.
Present: Council Member Hill, Council Member Rosansky, Mayor Gardner, Council Member Selich ,
Council Member Henn
Excused: Mayor Pro Tern Curry, Council Member Daigle
Mayor Pro Tem Curry arrived at 6:48 p.m. and Council Member Daigle arrived at 6:35 p.m
II. PUBLIC COMMENTS REGARDING CLOSED SESSION - None
.III. CLOSED SESSION - 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers Conference Room
C. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS (Government Code §
54956.8): 1 matter
Property: Bayside Marina, 1137 Bayside Drive, Corona del Mar, CA 92625
Agency negotiator: Dave Kiff
Negotiating parties: The Irvine Company
Under negotiation: Instruction to negotiator will concern price and terms of payment
IV. RECESS
V. RECONVENED AT 7:00 P.M. FOR REGULAR MEETING
VI. ROLL CALL
Present: Council Member Hill, Council Member Rosansky, Mayor Pro Tern Curry, Mayor Gardner,
Council Member Selich, Council Member Henn„ Council Member Daigle
VII. CLOSED SESSION REPORT - City Attorney Harp announced that there are no reportable
actions.
VIII. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - Council Member Rosansky
IX. NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC
X. PUBLIC COMMENTS -None
XI. CURRENT BUSINESS
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1. RENTAL RATES FOR COMMERCIAL MARINAS OVER CITY- MANAGED TIDELANDS.
[100 -2012]
Mayor Gardner emphasized that the item does not address residential piers, fuel docks
or restaurants with tidelands, but is strictly about commercial marinas.
Following a poll of those in the audience who wanted to provide comment on the item, it
was the consensus of Council to allow each speaker three minutes to provide public
comment.
Council Member Henn explained the process that the Committee on Harbor Charges
went through and noted that a representative of the marina owners will have an
opportunity to address Council for 15 minutes.
City Manager Kiff provided a PowerPoint presentation which addressed the purpose of
the meeting, the City's obligation to charge fair market value for the use of the
tidelands, and the background and role of the Committee and actions -taken. He
discussed existing commercial uses in the Harbor, the Committee's process in handling
commercial marinas, the Newport Beach Municipal Code (NBMC) and City Council
policies, and the City Attorney's input on the issue. He presented steps taken so far and
addressed revisions to the original lease proposal and appraisal results.
In response to Council Member Daigle's questions, City Manager Kill stated that the
base rate is not intended in the appraisals to mirror percentage rent and that the leases
should be structured to equal the higher rate. He presented comparable rents,
addressed the two separate classes of rates, and the Committee's recommendations
relative to rent amounts based on changing from permits to leases and the terms of the
leases. He also detailed the Committee recommendations relative to rent for
commercial marinas and other proposals submitted by stakeholders.
Ted Robinson reported that he and his wife own 50% of Larson's Marina and addressed
his investments in the property, including saving the shipyard. He spoke in opposition
to the increase, noting that the State has directed the City to provide appropriate and
fair management of the tidelands.
Council Member Henn clarified that the charges are related strictly to the footprint
within the marina covered by the docks and will not affect the shipyard business.
Council Member Rosansky added that it relates to marinas that are leasing slips.
Council Member Daigle believed that the previous speaker may be referring to a pass -
through cost.
Matt Clabaugh reported that he has developed large, municipal golf courses throughout
the State and addressed similarities between golf courses and commercial marinas. He
expressed the opinion that there is no appraisal that could adequately state what
marinas are worth.
Glenn Highland, Rear Commodore at the Balboa Bay Yacht Club, noted that the Club
has been in the Harbor since 1922 and operates a very large marina. He addressed
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membership and noted significant increases in marina vacancies due to the recession
and increases in mooring fees. He listed steps taken by the Club to maintain their
facilities. He expressed concerns with the economic consequences that may occur due to
the proposed fee increases.
Peter Swift reported that he fixes docks and has two projects that are currently on hold.
He believed that one of the unintended consequences of the proposed increase will be
that the marinas will not be worked on or maintained.
Seymour Beek believed that Council has flexibility in determining fair market value and
must consider the appraisals, but expressed the opinion that it is focusing on the high
end of the appraisal which he thinks is too much. He stated that the consequences have
not been completely explored and that Council should not follow the numbers
recommended in the staff report.
Jim Walker, President of the Newport Beach Restaurant Association, expressed concern
with the economic impact the increased fees may have on the City.'He discussed the
importance of the Harbor to the City and believed that the proposed increase is
dramatic. He suggested spreading the cost with all the residents or creating a
temporary sales tax so that everyone within Newport Harbor would share the costs.
Gary Hill reported that he owns a marine fuel dock on the Harbor. He discussed the
decrease in the number of fuel docks and believed that the extra cost will add hardships
to the marinas. He stated that the tidelands are not a "gift" and that he pays a
substantial amount of rent for being on the water. He addressed Coastal Land Use
policies regarding the goal of supporting marine businesses and believed that the
proposed fee increases do not meet the goal.
Council Member Rosansky noted that the subject discussion does not include fuel
docks.
Jet Rudder expressed concerns with the proposed increases and wondered if the City
intends to put marine operators out of business.
John Vallely reported that he owns a couple of commercial marinas, addressed the
appraisals regarding submerged tidelands leased for short -term uses, referenced a
recent acknowledgement by Duffy Duffield about his work as a Harbor Commissioners
in the development of the Harbor Area Management Plan and his comments that none
of the Harbor Commission recommendations have been enacted by Council or the City
Manager, and that many small businesses along the waterfront will consequently fail.
He wondered if that is the legacy desired by Council.
Robert Lounsbury referenced a separate appraisal by George Jones, submitted
previously to the City. He addressed the economic benefits to the City by waterfront
businesses and believed that the proposed increases will kill a new marina project. He
addressed joinder comparables and believed that they are not valid and the City should
allow business owners to make their own business decisions.
Bryan Williams noted an increase in dock vacancies and spoke in opposition to the
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proposed increases.
William Dutton commented on his work as a commercial real estate agent and the
affects of raising fees and discouraging businesses to succeed. He spoke in opposition
to the proposed increases.
Duffy Duffield reported the he rents a lot of slips and spoke in opposition to the
proposed fee increases. He stressed the importance of encouraging and promoting
businesses along the waterfront, and believed that the proposed increases will have the
opposite effect. He stated that the fees must be economically feasible in order to
sustain businesses.
Dave New stated that he hopes that Council and staff would negotiate leases and
expressed concern with increased vacancies because of increased costs.
Jack Hochadel, Balboa Boat Rentals, spoke in opposition to the proposed fee increases
and believed that the increases will be passed on to smaller businesses. He expressed
concern with increased vacancies due to the new fees and believed that the increase is
unreasonable.
Bob MacAvery hoped that Council will consider the issue carefully.
Jim Parker, Marina Properties, spoke in opposition to the proposed increases, as well
as the process. He believed that the concerns of marina owners seem be falling on deaf
ears.
Brad Avery believed that the City's intentions are good and that it was unfortunate
that previous Councils did not address the matter. He expressed the opinion that
current rates are at market value and suggested that Council consider spreading the
increase through a longer phasing period.
Gary Pickett addressed the City's process and believed that no business owner could
survive with the proposed fee increases. He addressed the Coastal Land Use Plan
relative to supporting marine use and commented on Mr. Rasmussen's appraisal,
noting that it does not indicate "the greater of'. He believed that the appraisals are
flawed relative to the occupancy rate and land value used, and referenced comments
from George Jones regarding the appraisals and the process. He addressed previous
proposals to the City which have been dismissed despite a commitment to pay higher
tidelands fees. He noted an increase in vacancies and believed that stakeholders are
stuck in a monopoly by the City.
Gary McKitterick distributed copies of his written comments and thanked Council for
considering the matter. He agreed with the conclusion that the fair market rent for
the tidelands should be charged, but believed that there is no competitive open market
in Newport Harbor with respect to tidelands since there is a single landlord with a
single tenant which could be considered a bilateral monopoly. He believed that
tenants cannot make decisions because of a lack of information, the water parcel is
restricted, and it impacts the appraisal analysis. He referenced a letter that he
submitted earlier regarding the appraisals. He added that marina owners are being
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compelled to pay excessive rates and encouraged the use of a valuation and validation
methodology in assessing the appraisals and parcel values. He stated that there is no
fair market determination and that a compelled transaction cannot be used as a
comparable.
Council Member Selich stated the Committee's charge and steps that were taken
regarding the matter. He reported that in the Committee's analysis, going to a
percentage -rent basis was the fairest way to deal with all of the users in the Harbor
because it would automatically adjust with changes in economic conditions. He
addressed the need to develop a phased -in program in order to obtain a market value.
He noted that the appraisal information, along with additional research, indicate that
most marinas in other jurisdiction use 25% of gross revenue where the water and land
are jointly leased, and addressed the rate of 20% charged by the County to existing
marinas. He addressed primary upland support relative to parking requirements. He
noted that many Harbor uses have no upland support and have no parking which
burdens City streets. He addressed the spread of existing leases in harbors with
comparable rents, noting that 20% falls in the middle. He pointed out that when
considering all of the issues, the rates seem to be fair and pointed out that 20% does
not mean 20% of the total revenue but rather is only 20% of the tidelands portion of
the revenue.
Council Member Selich took issue with the opinion that the Committee has taken a
"take- it -or- leave -it" attitude and that other proposals were rejected. He emphasized
that the Committee has continually tried to work with all the stakeholders on this
matter to come up with a compromise.
Council Member Henn noted that many of the Harbor marina operators are opposed to
disclosing revenue, so the Committee developed an index approach in order to reach a
compromise. He explained the methodology used in developing the index, including
the application of an appropriate vacancy factor. He believed that this is a reasonable
way to reach a fair market value per square foot charge. He acknowledged that this
method needs to be implemented slowly and carefully to give people a chance to adjust
their business models over a longer period of time.
Council Member Henn presented details of a separate phasing plan as an additional
attempt to reach a compromise. He explained that the index would be recalculated
each year in order to bring the marinas to an appropriate fair market rate. He
believed that it would be appropriate to return at the next Council meeting to review
the lease template, further consider the index approach, and allow another opportunity
for public input and more discussion by Council.
Discussion followed regarding the process and actions required at this time.
Mayor Pro Tem Curry commended the Committee for their work and efforts on this
matter and commented on the willingness to compromise. He addressed the fairness
and impact on businesses in the Harbor and stated that the proposed 20% of revenue
charge has not been fully vetted. He commented positively on the index concept,
agreed with the need for phasing, and indicated the he would be supportive of an
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alternative plan
Motion by Mayor Pro Tern Curry, seconded by Council Member Daigle to approve the
stakeholders' alternative recommendation that scales from $.75 per square foot in 2013
to $2.00 in 2018, and includes lease options.
Substitute motion by Council Member Rosanskv, seconded by Council Member Selich
to approve the Committee's recommendation whether it involves 20% of gross revenue
or of the calculated index.
Council Member Hill expressed support for calculations made on a square- footage
basis. He noted that phasing is one of the most important aspects to this and that it
would involve a change in doing business for many. He suggested that the rate remain
at $.36 for 2013 and 2014, and subsequently move forward with the recommended
adjustments which will then reach the 20 % -of- revenue fair market value in the year
2020. He indicated that this would allow businesses two years to recover from the
current economy and six years to reach the fair market value.
Amended substitute motion by Council Member Rosanskv. seconded by Council
Member Selich to focus on the 20% of the calculated index for the total number of
marinas in the Harbor, to wait one year before the phasing period begins, and extend
the phasing period to the year 2020.
In response to Council Member Daigle's inquiry regarding use of an index by other
marinas, City Manager Kiff explained the methodology, but stated that fair market
value has not been reached. Mayor Gardner indicated that she does not support
waiting one year to begin the increase, but believed that extending the phasing
timeline would be more valuable. She indicated support for the original substitute
motion and allowing an extension of the phasing timeline.
Gary Pickett stated that it is difficult to compete with The Irvine Company and believed
that marinas would be willing to volunteer their revenue numbers. He added that 20%
is still unacceptable when others use 17% and 9.5 %. He indicated that he would like
time to consider the various proposals presented.
Council Member Henn reiterated that 20% is the right number and stated that he
would prefer to have actual revenue numbers to calculate the index.
Council Member Rosansky emphasized that the revenues would be needed for multiple
years in order to calculate the index.
Mayor Gardner stated that she will not support the amended substitute motion since
she does not agree with either the stated 20% or the extension of one year to
implement the increases.
Mayor Pro Tern Curry indicated that he will not support the amended substitute
motion.
Council Member Daigle stated the she will not support the substitute motion since it
supports the 20% rate.
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Council Member Rosansky believed that there has been no incentive to upgrade the
marinas since they were paying the lower rate.
Council Member Henn acknowledged that the increase is high; but indicated that the
proposed phasing period is extremely generous in order to allow businesses to make
the adjustments.
The amended substitute motion carried by the following roll call vote:
Ayes: Council Member Hill, Council Member Rosansky, Council Member Selich , Council
Member Henn
Noes: Mayor Pro Tem Curry, Mayor Gardner, Council Member Daigle
Council Member Henn reiterated that this decision is in relation to commercial
marinas and that no one should assume that the same policies will be applied to other
marine uses in the Harbor.
Council Member Rosansky encouraged those interested in submitting comments at the
next meeting to do so in a timely manner and to submit them to City Manager Kiff.
XH. ADJOURNMENT - 9:20 p.m.
The agenda for the Special Meeting was posted on September 10, 2012, at 3:48 p.m. on the
City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of Newport Beach Administration
Building.
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