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October 17, 2002
Regular Meeting - 6:30 p.m.
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Commissioners Toerge, Agajanian, McDaniel, Kiser, Gifford, Selich and Tucker -
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STAFF PRESENT:
Sharon Wood, Assistant City Manager
Daniel Ohl, Deputy City Attorney
Rich Edmonston, Transportation /Development Services Manager
James Campbell, Senior Planner
Dan Trimble, Project Manager
Ginger Varin, Planning Commission Secretary
Minutes:
Motion was made by Commissioner Agajanian to approve the minutes of October
3, 2002 as amended.
Ayes: Toerge, Agajanian, McDaniel, Kiser, Selich, Tucker
Abstain: Gifford
Public Comments:
Chairperson Kiser noted a letter that had been distributed to the Planning
Commission written by Keystone Pacific Property management, Inc. regarding the
Jamboree Road Widening.
Dolores Offing, a resident of Newport Beach, noted her concern with the way the
minutes are handled for both the Planning Commission and City Council meetings
stating that there is no way to get an audio tape of the meeting. It would be a
good idea to get copies of the draft minutes to the public. The Government
Code Section states that the public should get the information at the same time as
the Planning Commission. You need to communicate with the public in the best
way as possible. She concluded by saying that Commissioner Toerge really needs
a name badge.
Posting of the Agenda:
The Planning Commission agenda was posted on Friday, October 11, 2002.
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SUBJECT: Code Amendment No. 2002 -005 (PA2002 -161)
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Balboa Village Design Guidelines
PA2002 -161
Amendment to the Central Balboa Speclfic Plan District # 8, removing the existing
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design guidelines from Section 20.45.025 and adding revised Sections 20.45.020 and
20.45.025, establishing the Balboa Village Design Guidelines and establishing
development plan procedures.
Ms. Wood noted this item had been continued from September 19, 2002 to allow
time for consideration by the Commission as well as more public outreach on this
procedure and the Guidelines themselves. There was a meeting of the Promote
Revitalization of Our Peninsula, (PROP) Committee (made up of three
Councilmembers). The Mayor, who chairs the Committee, invited comments from
members of the public. There was one recommendation, which is shown on page 2
of the staff report. If the Planning Commission agrees, then this will have to be
added to the Resolution as part of the motion to recommend Council approval.
Commissioner Selich asked about the building permit requirements for development
plan review process. Are people going to be required to adhere to these guidelines
for simple reconstruction?
Ms. Wood answered that it is only for new work on the exterior that will require a
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building permit. If it were a change from window to door on the exterior, staff would
review that portion of the work against these Guidelines, but not asking that the
entire building be changed. Staff would want to make sure that any replacements
to the exterior would be of the some scale as the existing doorways and /or windows
on the building. The style is to be consistent as other buildings on the street as
opposed to putting in something that might be ultra modern and out of place for
the building in the context.
Commissioner Tucker asked how many people attended the PROP meeting from
the public? He was answered approximately 14.
Mr. Dan Trimble, Program Administrator, added that the public made general
comments. There were two recommendations made, one of which is included in
the staff report, and the other was a reduction to the boundaries wherein the
Guidelines would apply, but that would have been inconsistent with the Specific
Plan boundaries. People understood that this is a new regulatory requirement,
however, it is a step back from full design review.
Commissioner McDaniel noted that the report indicates single family and duplexes.
As a banker, I look at 1 to 4 as the normal scope of lending. I want to recommend
that we keep the 1 to 4 so that a multi family would be five families or bigger. Do
we have any idea as to how many duplexes or triplexes or 4 units or less that we
have?
Mr. Trimble answered that there are currently no four - plexes or triplexes. There are
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duplexes and multi - family residential condominiums in that area. We could include
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a number if that is more appropriate rather than exempting single family
duplexes, we can include residential of four units or less as the exemption.
Commissioner McDaniel noted that from a lending point of view this could be a
consideration. We want to encourage people to improve their buildings so I don't
want to discourage people from getting financing for it.
Ms. Wood added that there is no situation within the Specific Plan boundaries where
these Guidelines will apply where there are triplexes and four - plexes that would be
pulled into the development plan review process. What the zoning allows and what
we have on the ground are single family and duplexes on individual lots.
Commissioner Agajanian asked about the discretion of the Planning Director and
how the Planning Commission will be making judgments on these Guidelines.
Ms. Wood answered that this Is not a formal design review process, no standards are
being proposed. Staff, as well as the Commission, would be looking for a project to
be consistent with the majority of the guidelines that apply to the project. Not all of
them may apply to every project. The reason we are proposing the guidelines be
adopted by resolution rather than ordinance is to allow for flexibility. If the project is
a good project then It could be approved without some variance or waiver
process; we are trying to keep this as simple a process as possible. The Planning
• Director will initially make these determinations, but there may be a project that is
large or that staff is not sure is in compliance, so the Director may bring it to the
Commission for a public review. The decision of the Planning Commission is
appealable to the City Council.
Commissioner Tucker verified that these guidelines are not recorded and thereby
would not affect financing; the decision of the Planning Director is appealable to
the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Selich asked if there was any discussion on having an architect or
design professional review these as were done on Mariners Mile?
Ms. Wood answered that was not discussed. In the case of Mariner's Mile, the
consulting architect was used just for a time until the guidelines were in place and
staff had the training to deal with them.
Chairperson Selich noted his concern about the application of these guidelines by
the Planning Directors. Maybe by way of suggestion as we send this along to the
City Council to have a professional retained to consult with the Planning Director.
Commissioner McDaniel noted his concern about this going on forever and
suggested some sort of sunsetting within ten years.
Commissioner Toerge asked about the public noticing since the last meeting.
0 Ms. Wood answered that two notifications were made as well as a posting for the
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Planning Commission meeting that had been
Mr. Trimble stated that the PROP agenda is not posted in the newspaper, but that a
mailing had been sent to a group of people who had voiced an interest on
peninsula matters. The agenda was posted at City Hall.
Public comment was opened.
Bob Black, one of the property owners of 400 Main Street, stated he was at the
PROP meeting and received information on the guidelines. He supports the
guidelines and thanked the architect and planner for his input and involvement. A
type of guidelines such as these has been discussed for many years.
Public comment was closed.
Chairperson Kiser noted:
• Page 15 of the guidelines - the third bullet point regarding second floor
additions, suggested changing to, 'second or third floor additions,' as it is
possible for a third floor addition and we don't want this to suggest that
there shouldn't be such a thing.
• Page 18 of the guidelines - check the verbiage of the fifth bullet point.
• Page 21 of the guidelines - the fourth bullet point Is a repeat of the last
bullet point so delete that fourth one.
• Page 21 of the guidelines - remove the last sentence of the twelfth bullet
point as it repeats the tenth bullet point.
• Page 24 of the guidelines - Section 10 - add reference to 'third' floor space.
• Asked for clarification of the first bullet point under recommendations for
additions to existing buildings. Mr. Trimble clarified that this refers to the
comparison of the entire new construction as opposed to a single floor that
is getting an addition. The preference would be for something to have a
unified character with the existing and the addition. If not, then
consideration should be given to new construction. After a brief discussion,
staff offered to re -word this for clarification.
• He agrees with the suggestion of getting an architect to help the Planning
Director and this ought to be recommended to the City Council.
• He noted that on the resolution, there is no rendition of the Planning
Commission hearings on September 19th and October 17th. Since it is on
the ordinance, he recommended that it be on the resolution.
Commissioner Selich suggested:
• In the recommendation to the City Council, an architect should be
retained. He asked if the other Commissioners agreed.
Chairperson Kiser asked for a straw vote on this suggestion:
Commissioner Tucker - would not like to see it in the guidelines, guidelines should not
be more bureaucratic to review what a Planning Director is doing. Good idea to
• see If it is consistent with the guidelines, but the architect part of it may become
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more suggestive or attempt a specific look as opposed to general consistency with
the guidelines. It is something that I would recommend that staff do, but I am not
sure I would want to see it as a force of compliance.
Chairperson Kiser stated it was not his intention to put this in the guidelines either and
that an architect would assist. What is the mechanism for us to strongly suggest to
the City Council that something like that be included, and how would they do that?
Ms. Wood answered that the Commission could add it to the Resolution
recommending approval of the Guidelines, that for implementation you
recommend that the City retain an architect to assist staff in reviewing projects
against the guidelines. The administrative process would be for staff to issue a
request for proposal for architects or urban designers to help us with this and they
would give us proposal with an hourly rate. We would then select one. One of the
choices for the City Council would be if the City should pick up that cost or it should
be something to be passed on to the applicant.
Commissioner Gifford noted this should not be incorporated as part of the
Guidelines. However, in terms of a suggestion, she would like to make available
advisory resources in the form of licensed architects. Over many years, a lot of work
has been involved with this issue. There have been two RUDAT studies where the
American Institute of Architects gets volunteers from all over the country to come
. and do charrettes. The Balboa Peninsula Advisory Committee and PROP have been
working on this for many years. I would like to see a group of architects volunteer to
be available for input when it is requested.
Commissioner McDaniel noted he is opposed to having an architect involved.
Architects can be very opinionated, and he would like to make this as simple as
possible.
Commissioner Agajonian noted he agrees with what has been suggested. He
noted his concern with the regulatory and suggestive nature of the guidelines. The
requirements are vague. This heads In the right direction, but doesn't have a lot of
confidence in how this Is going to stand up over time.
Commissioner Toerge asked If this was a skill set or workload problem for staff?
Commissioner Selich answered that his concern was the skills. There are no design
professionals on staff and thinks It would be good to do something like this,
especially with all the money the City has invested in that area. He is skeptical of
getting volunteers to do the work, but thinks it is a skill Issue and that the City needs
to have a design professional looking at these.
Commissioner McDaniel noted that the applicant would have their own architect
and own ideas to comply with the Guidelines. I would like to move this forward.
Chairperson Kiser noted that the architect would make suggestions, but not be an
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the Planning Director, so that those skills would be available to help
Director make a better decision.
Chairperson Kiser then asked about the four units or less.
Commissioner Tucker said there was no need for a change.
Commissioner Selich agreed.
Commissioner Gifford agreed.
Chairperson Kiser noted he did not understand how a fourplex would be financially
hindered by a design review level; otherwise, sees no reason to change.
Commissioner McDaniel answered that there aren't any, so it doesn't matter.
Commissioners Agajanian and Toerge had no comments.
Motion was made by Commissioner Tucker to adopt Resolution 1574
recommending that the City Council approve the requested amendment and the
Balboa Village Design Guidelines with the Resolution containing language that
states that the Council consider budgeting for an architect to assist the Planning
Director on an as needed basis In reviewing consistency of projects with the Design
Guidelines.
Commissioner Gifford noted she was absent from the first meeting when this was
discussed and did not have an opportunity to listen to the tapes. She has read
• the minutes and wants to understand that based on that, she can vote on this
matter tonight.
Deputy City Attorney Dan Ohl answered yes.
Chairperson Kiser clarified that the motion should also include the
recommendation on the second page of the staff report.
The maker of the motion agreed.
Following a brief discussion, it was decided to leave the verbiage of the motion
relative to budget funding for an architect to remain as is.
Ayes: Toerge, Agaianian, McDaniel, Kiser, Gifford, Selich, Tucker
Noes: None
SUBJECT: Wetherholt Residence
217 30th Sheet
A Variance request for 3 separate aspects of the proposed addition to an existing
two -story residential structure: to exceed the floor area limit, to exceed the
established maximum building height of 24 feet by 3 feet 3 Inches associated with
adding a third level to the existing structure, and to continue to provide only 1 on-
site parking space for the residence. The subject property Is located at 217 30th
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Item 2
PA2002 -102
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Ms. Wood reported that staff requests this item be continued to November 7, 2002
as staff did not get the extra notice regarding the open space to the public. Staff
sent out a supplemental report but we have been advised by the City Attorney's
office that the Commission should not be discussing this item at all in light of the
incomplete noticing. The applicant had been advised.
Motion was made by Commissioner Gifford to continue this item to November 7,
2002.
Ayes: Toerge, Agajanian, McDaniel, Kiser, Gifford, Selich, Tucker
Noes: None
SUBJECT: Red Robin Restaurant
987 Newport Center Drive
Request for a Use Permit pursuant to the Alcoholic Beverage Outlet Ordinance
(ABO) to authorize the sale of alcoholic beverages for on -site consumption at a
proposed restaurant to be located within Fashion Island.
Jim Campbell, Sr. Planner apologized that the resolution had not been sent as
part of the staff report and has been distributed tonight.
Public comment was opened.
Public comment was closed.
Chairperson Kiser noted that this restaurant is not near any residential uses, is an
interior facing part of a large shopping center; there are only ten bar stools;
alcohol service is Type 47 in connection with a restaurant use; the police have no
problems with the use, nor suggestions for changes; and finally, there is no
proposal for outdoor amplified music or live entertainment.
Motion was made by Commission Tucker to adopt Resolution No. 1576 approving
the requested Use Permit No. 2002 -038 (PA2002 -183) with conditions.
Ayes: Toerge, Agajonian, McDaniel, Kiser, Gifford, Sellch, Tucker
Noes: None
ADDITIONAL BUSINESS:
• a) City Council Follow -up -Ms. Wood then noted that at the last Council
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Item 3
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meeting of October 8th, Councilmember O'Neil asked for a zoning
amendment that would deal with landmark theaters in the City. There are
three older theaters, the Balboa Theater, the Lido and the Port Theater. The
idea is to provide a way for them to continue their operations but have
flexibility to change for food service so that they can continue to operate in
a new environment. There was an approval for a budget for the LCP
update.
b) Oral report from Planning Commission's representative to the Economic
Development Committee - Commissioner Selich reported that there was
no meeting.
C) Report from Planning Commission's representatives to the General Plan
Update Committee - Commissioner Agajanian noted that there has been
no meeting.
d) Report from Planning Commission's representative to the Local Coastal
Plan Update Committee - Commissioner Selich noted that the first two
chapters have been reviewed, the Introduction and the land use portion.
We have to have the LCP done by June 30th. A draft of the first three
chapters will be distributed to the Commission and staff for review in
November. The General Plan Advisory Committee will also be sharing this
• work. The Committee has decided to send this to the GPAC at the same
time it is going to the Coastal staff review. No land use changes are
proposed as it deals more with Coastal Act policies in the Coastal zones
within the City. For purposes of meeting this deadline, we are not making
any changes to land use entitlement.
e) Matters that a Planning Commissioner would like staff to report on at a
subsequent meeting - Chairperson Kiser noted that the language for the
Modification Committee referring to views from adjoining residential
properties should be discontinued. The City should not be making
reference to having made a decision on the basis of whether something
does or does not obstruct views from adjoining properties,, I think this should
be removed from the standard language. Following a brief discussion, It
was decided that a discussion of the 'no detriment' finding would come
back as a staff report for further review.
f) Matters that a Planning Commissioner may wish to place on a future
agenda for action and staff report - none.
g) Status report on Planning Commission requests - Ms. Wood reported that
some citizens of Newport Beach appealed the LDS decision.
h) Project status - Chairperson Kiser asked for a consolidation of the November
and December meetings so that November 21st and December 18th would
not be meeting nights.
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1) Requests for excused absences - none.
ADJOURNMENT: 8;00 p.m.
SHANT AGAJANIAN, SECRETARY
CITY OF NEWPORT BEACH PLANNING COMMISSION
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