HomeMy WebLinkAbout20 - Residential Refuse Collection RFP - CorrespondenceBrown, Leilani
From: Karen Clark [karen-clark@cox.net]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 5:24 PM "RECEIVED AFTER AGENDA
To: Dept - City Council; Brown, Leilani; info@cdmra.org
Subject: Trash Outsourcing PRINTED:"
Follow Up Flag: Follow Up
Due By: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:27 AM
Flag Status: Flagged
Dear City Council: I am concerned with outsourcing for several reasons. I think the current service is fine and don't
think we pay too much. But my biggest concern is for our good, long -serving city employees who will be displaced,
presumably with workers who are paid less and have few if any benefits. As a wealthy city, I think we should be
embarrassed, even ashamed, to try to save a few nickels if it will result (as I expect it will) in making the less affluent of
our citizens even poorer, even to the point that they can no longer support their families, so we wealthier people have a
slightly larger share of the pie.
Karen H. Clark
2701 Ebbtide Rd.
Corona del Mar
Karen-clark@cox.net
Brown, Leilani
From: bobnmel2@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:12 AM
To: Dept - City Council; Brown, Leilani; info@cdmra.org
Subject: Trash Outsourcing
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Due By: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:27 AM
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We have lived in Corona del Mar for over 25 yrs and would like to keep the current trash pick up the way it is with the city
workers. They are friendly, efficient and always do a good job and I believe that it is worth the extra cost of maintaining
the city workers versus contracting out the service. We know what we are getting and feel it is money well spent from the
city budget. I have noticed there are contracted workers picking up trash along Coast highway and the level of service is
just not the same, I think you get what you pay for. In this economy everyone needs their job and I think the city workers
have proven their worth, they are a part of the community. I would urge you to vote to keep the trash service with the city
workers.
Thank you,
Bob and Melinda Keeler
2690 Point del Mar
Corona del Mar
Brown, Leilani
From: Barbara Everson [beverson1 @gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 8:53 AM
To: Dept - City Council; Brown, Leilani; info@cdmra.org
Subject: Trash Outsourcing
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Please keep our current system of trash pick-up even if it means increasing our bills.
Barbara Everson
Brown, Leilani
From: Michael Pilsitz [mpilsitz@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:27 PM
To: Dept - City Council; Brown, Leilani; Corona del Mar Residents Association
Subject: Trash Outsourcing
Follow Up Flag: Follow Up
Due By: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:42 PM
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The following is a copy of a message previously sent to Nancy Gardner:
No outsourcing of trash pickup! As a longtime resident I've noticed outsourced city services - tree trimming
and street sweeping - have resulted in downgraded service and mediocre results. All city employees are trained
in customer service; I know, my wife (now retired) was a 20 -year employee of NB, working in the library.
These out-of-town businesses just work as fast as they can with crews of indifferent, often unskilled, laborers. l
have had to call some city offices to have followup work done properly. Can't take the place of caring, careful,
efficient city workers.
Our refuse collectors are professionals and Newport Beach residents will suffer if they are replaced.
Sincerely,
Mike Pilsitz
As a followup, I ask you to consider how much you could save by outsourcing all city services, not that I
recommend that measure. This has to stop. What are we, Costa Mesa?
Brown, Leilani
From: Steve Prough [steveprough@roadrunner.com]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:30 AM
To: Dept - City Council; Brown, Leilani; info@cdmra.org
Subject: Trash Outsourcing
Dear Ladies and Gentleman,
One of the great resources for the City has been the team that works within the Trash Collection
Group.
They are extremely helpful, personable and hard working.
In measuring compatible costs the discussion continues to be the cost of new equipment.
Please remember that proper accounting has the cost amortized and spread out over the life of the
equipment.
That is what the bidders have done or will do to arrive at their price.
A proper comparison and analysis needs to consider those assumptions.
The City has in place a capital improvement budget that I understand is fully funded to cover the cost
of the new equipment as needed.
The City manager and Council has the responsibility to disclose how they plan to spend the money
already in the City Treasury designated for trash collection.
Will this money be used to cover the cost of expansion and high cost furniture in our new City Hall?
Will this money to be used to fund the proposed exorbitant salary increases for the senior members of
the staff as we fire City employees who provide a great service to our community?
One discussion point that keeps be mentioned is that the current staff will be offered jobs by the
bidder.
Common sense would tell you that will never happened.
It would be interesting to see an accounting of how many former City employees are hired and how
many City employees are fired with families to feed.
Last studies showed the acceptance rating of this department at 95%.
The amount of savings measured against the number of households of the City that this Department
serves does not justified the decision.
Thank you for listening.
Stephen W Prough
3rd generation resident of Newport Beach.
Brown, Leilani
From: bobpastore [bobpastore1 @gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 2:51 PM
To: Dept- City Council; Brown, Leilani; info@Cameohoa.org
Subject: Letter of Support for Current Refuse System
Honorable Council Members,
I am contacting you to express my support for the current refuse collection service provided by
Newport Beach city employees. As a resident, I am concerned that the City Council is considering
outsourcing this service.
The current effort provided by the City refuse workers not only meets the needs of the community—
their work enhances our life style. These workers provide professional and courteous work in our
neighborhoods and allow for the residents to have clean and safe neighborhoods. As a resident, I
support keeping this service operated by the City.
As a taxpayer, I appreciate that the current collection service is delivered at a cost that is one of the
lowest in Orange County and lower than any of the neighboring cities. The competitive cost of our
current traditional service means we, as residents, receive the same excellent service at a low cost.
As a Corona del Mar homeowner I am expressing my support to keep Newport Beach refuse
collection services in-house.
Thank you,
Robert A. Pastore
4727 Surrey Drive
Corona del Mar
Rieff, Kim
From:
Mulvey, Jennifer
Sent:
Monday, September 09, 2013 4:31 PM
To:
Rieff, Kim
Subject:
Refuse Issue
Gentleman in Spyglass (no name) who does not want to change because he feels our workers are excellent people and
we should not do this to them.
hmni f a Malv¢y
Administrative Assistant
City Clerk's Office
100 Civic Center Dr, Newport Beach, CA 92660
949-644-3005
Rieff, Kim
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City Clerk's Office
Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:51 AM
McDonald, Cristal; Mulvey, Jennifer; Rieff, Kim
FW: Input for today's Council meeting
PROFITIZATION OF TRASH COLLECTION.docx
From: Jamshed Dastur
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:50:43 AM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: City Clerk's Office
Subject: Input for today's Council meeting
Attached are my comments on the issue of Privatizing Trash Collection in Newport Beach, which is on the agenda for
today's City Council meeting.
Thank you for distributing it to the Council Members and some copies for the public.
Jamshed Dastur
Balboa Island
949-673-4078
PROFITIZATION OF TRASH COLLECTION
Sitting on your $20,000,000 thrones (the new City Hall cost per Council Member) looking down on your
loyal subjects, do you really want us to believe that elimination thru PROFITIZATION of an efficient and
well liked public service is to save some money? You spent almost $100,000 to hire a consultant to
develop a lengthy and complex report with all kinds of gibberish, concocting a fairy tale regarding
millions of dollars in savings. The savings are contrived by selling off city property, by leasing out our
transfer facility along with its excess unused capacity, like an entity going broke. The figures are further
contrived by using half the inflation rate guaranteed under the proposed seven year contract. And finally
you achieve your real goal — have the current hard-working, loyal employees take a 27% cut in basic
wages and an unknown larger reduction in benefits, if they are able and willing to go to work for the
new operator. Their current base wage is $27.73 an hour whereas the two operators currently under
consideration pay $20.35 an hour.
Using the City's own numbers, here are the facts. Under Plant (the primary basis for comparison) which
maintains the current level of service, the calculated reduction in cost is $14,000,000 and not the much
bandied around number of $17,000,000. Without the one-time revenue from selling trucks and the
associated reserve funds, the savings under Plan 1 are reduced to $8,000,000 over seven years. The full
capacity of the transfer station is 300 tons per day of which less than 50% is currently used. An
adjustment for this false saving of $3,000,000, allowing the new operator access to this additional
unused capacity would bring down the projected savings to $5,000,000. If inflation related cost
adjustment is calculated at the maximum permitted under the contract (5%) instead of the arbitrary
2.5% used in the calculations, the savings would be further reduced to less than $3,000,000 over seven
years. Furthermore, the contract allows for cost adjustments above 5% for extra -ordinary circumstances
which has not been factored into the analyses. If history is any guide, extra -ordinary circumstances over
seven years will wipe out the remaining projected savings. So the end result is that the current City
employees will be forced into working at 27% reduced wages (if at all) and with considerably reduced
benefits whereas the citizens of Newport Beach will lose what they consider to be part of their beloved
extended family. The City Manager pompously proclaims, "The City Council is COMPASSIONATE when it
privatizes". What utter arrogance! Does the City Council consider City Employees to be welfare
recipients or indigents in need of charity? Would any of you Council members consider dissociating
yourself from this comment and offer an apology to the City workers? Or is this the norm when you sit
on a $20,000,000 throne?
I urge the City Council to digest these phony numbers and reject this course of action. Privatization
makes sense in some instances. In others, like in this case, it is a heartless ploy to drive down the wages
and benefits of loyal diligent workers.
Jamshed Dastur
Balboa Island
949-673-4078
Refuse Proposal Calls
Calls to the Mayor prior to 9.10.13
Lori and Evelyn Leonelli are against the refuse proposals
Gentleman said he would like to keep what they have
Mrs. Weber said she would like the Mayor to look at the budget and make a decision on the savings
Diane Fullen said she enjoys service and thinks it should be put to a vote.
9.10.13
John P. Strahl and his wife are against privatizing the refuse collection. They think are refuse collectors
do a great job.
Brenda & Frank Wilfert love the current refuse service.
Gordon said he really appreciates the service he has now. He said it is good PR for the City because the
refuse service is well liked. He said it is all positive.
Gary Dial said leave trash collection alone. Works perfectly.
Rachel Maguire said she supports the refuse pick as is and that it should be put to a vote.
Honorable Mayor and City Council Members:
We have been residents of Newport Beach since 1963. It is a wonderful city to live in, and we appreciate your
hard work on our behalf.
However, it has become a concern for us that the City is preparing to outsource the Sanitation Department.
The hard-working men who have collected our trash for years are doing a great job, and as pointed out,
Newport Beach currently has the lowest cost per household of any city in the area. It seems unlikely that the
projected "cost savings" will save our city money in the long run, but such a change could well diminish the
level of service.
Sincerely,
Elisabeth and David Cook
420 Vista Roma
Newport Beach, CA
September 10, 2013
Newport Beach City Council
100 Civic Center Drive
Newport Beach, CA 92660
RE: Solid Waste Proposals
"IF IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - IT'S PROBABLY NOT TRUE!"
The above proverb correctly sums up the proposals from CR&R and Ware Disposal for the City of
Newport Beach. Having twenty-nine years' experience in the solid waste industry and as a 37 year
resident of the City of Newport Beach, I can, without any hesitation, share with you my strong belief
that this current recommendation from HF&H is not only incomplete, but flawed.
The analysis of the proposals (52 pages of information) was conspicuously missing information that was
submitted by all the responding firms. This information would have clearly reflected that anticipated
"Employee and Truck Operating Cost Detail". Instead, the report you received, omitted this critical chart
- which would show the anticipated expenses by the haulers to give our community the service "equal to
or better than the current service levels". There is no "magic" when it comes to the expenses for fuel,
Insurance, landfill disposal and the vehicle capital expense. These costs are the same for all the haulers,
in fact we are all required by the Flow Control agreements the County of Orange to landfill all our waste
within the County system at the same rate.
That begs the question —
How can CR&R be $13,556,000 less than the actual costs of the current operation? (Path 1)
The only answer is a massive reduction in the wages and benefits paid to their drivers, the anticipated
level of service to the residents and the quality and extent of preventative maintenance to the vehicles
operating within Newport Beach. There are no other areas to make such dramatic cost reductions.
To further support the fact that the council is not being given the entire back-up information, note that
on page 12 Table 4 "Average Hourly Driver Wage" the figures only reflect the basic hourly wage. All the
haulers were required to not only submit this information, but also the Healthcare, Retirement and
other Employee Benefits. This information was somehow deleted from your council analysis.
HF&H is quality firm that is capable of exceptional analysis, but one has to question why so much
relevant information was omitted. Nowhere in the analysis was the annual net expense compared to a
Newport Beach City Council - 2 - September 10, 2013
monthly cost per unit. This should have been a critical point of evaluation for the council to consider.
Based on the estimated number of residential units and the proposed operating costs, CR&R's net
residential rate for Path 2 is approximately $10.16 per month. When compared with a number of cities
served by CR&R in Orange County—that rate is half the cost! In almost every RFP analysis, comparative
rates are included as part of the evaluation. Why were they omitted in this HF&H analysis?
As a resident of Newport Beach, I have in the past, supported out -sourcing our solid waste collection,
but never at the price of compromising the quality of service we now enjoy. This quality service can be
directly attributed to the current employee group and the supervision they receive. An even bigger
issue would be that of the safety of our community. We all know when the quality of drivers, lack of
supervision and the extent of preventative maintenance are slashed to "low -ball" a bid; the level of
safety is at risk.
One final thought; two of the most respected haulers in Orange County were "excluded" for
consideration in this final analysis - Republic Services and Rainbow Disposal. I think it is fair to say that
both of these quality firms were extremely motivated to submit as competitive pricing as possible to be
successful in this RFP process. Their Path 1(apples to apples comparisons) to the current operation
reflected the cost to give the City of Newport Beach a level of service which residents now enjoy and the
safety they expect. These two firms anticipated costs (as reflected by the HF&H analysis) were on
average over $9,000,000.00 greater than the proposed pricing by CR&R! That fact alone would bring
into question the validly of the low -ball pricing of CR&R and Ware Disposal.
I would respectfully request that the council defer any action on this RFP until all the information is
clearly presented and a complete analysis is submitted for council consideration. Newport Beach is a
class community that deserves the highest level of service, by the best drivers available and at the
highest level of safety!
Respectfully Submitted,
Dave Ault
Brown, Leilani
From: Corona del Mar Residents Assn [Info@Comra.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:01 AM
To: Dept - City Council
Cc: Brown, Leilani; Kiff, Dave; Debbie Stevens
Subject: Resident Survey - Trash Outsourcing
Attachments: Survey Trash Coriclusions.pdf
Attached this our report which recaps the Corona del Mar resident survey conducted in April 2013 as part of our
Spring newsletter mailing to over 6,300 residential households in Corona del Mar.
We had intended to present this information at the September 10 City Council meeting, but given the tone of the
staff report, council's opening remarks and the number of people who wanted to speak on this issue, we decided
to deliver this via email instead. We do ask that our report be included in the public record along with the other
public comments from last night's meeting.
The summary of our findings (see page 4 in the attachment) is:
SUMMARY
In spite of the lack of specific cost data at the time of the survey, a higher percentage of
respondents preferred outsourcing with the option to recycle at home. Those who live in the
Village preferred this option at a slightly higher rate than those who live in CdM planned
communities. Regardless of which option was chosen, 68% indicated that preference for their
choice was strong. Residents, without exception, strongly support our employee haulers, and
applaud their service, commitment and personal connections with their "customers". Many
respondents felt disadvantaged at not having cost information on which to base their opinion.
They also felt that not all options utilizing our existing municipal workers had been adequately
addressed.
We concur with council members' comments that there is still work to be done and information to be shared
(Gardner, Hill, Petros). The concerns that Council Member Selich shared reflect that of so many in this
community. The vote, itself, demonstrated that Council was significantly divided on whether this action was
premature in face of additional fact gathering and data analysis.
Now that the decision to outsource has been made, we urge you to diligently and thoroughly review the bidders'
contracts, their service history as defined by their actual customers (not the cities), and provide more clear and
concise information about costs and services to the public as part of an ongoing process to build the public's trust
as we move forward. As demonstrated by the show of residents and their comments last night, there is much
work yet to be done in this area.
We request that staff attend our October 17th Board Meeting (7:30 am Oasis #5) to specifically address these
concerns.
Thank you.
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BACKGROUND
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Corona del Mar Residents Association (CdMRA)
CdMRA was created over 25 years ago to provide a unified voice on issues affecting Corona del
Mar residential neighborhoods (composed of approximately 6300 households), and it utilizes a
variety of communication tools, educational workshops and outreach programs to accomplish
this goal.
Our Bylaws require us to keep our membership informed of issues that have a direct impact on
the quality of life in Corona del Mar, and determine whether community consensus exists on
issues which potentially challenge that quality. Working with our city's leadership and staff, we
are committed to protect, preserve and improve the quality of life for those who call Corona del
Mar their home.
METHODOLGY
The Survey Process
To determine whether there was a community consensus on the topic of outsourcing our trash
service, the Corona del Mar Residents Association conducted a survey on this topic in our Spring
2013 Newsletter. The survey went to all 6300+ residential addresses in Corona del Mar, and we
estimate that approximately 6100 households of those households are serviced by our municipal
trash haulers. It was also made available on our website to capture electronic responses.
Electronic responses were validated to insure respondent was a Corona del Mar resident.
To insure we conveyed the correct information about the project, we invited Dave Kiff, City
Manager, to write the informational article which preceded the survey. The article took up 1 %2
pages of our six-page newsletter. The single -question survey had a three part answer, asking
residents to choose one of the three options discussed in the article: retaining the current
municipal system, outsourcing with recycling done at the collection facility, or outsourcing with
the option to recycle by household. We asked how strongly they felt about their preference and
left an area for open-ended comments. This survey was put together by one of our long-time
members with a Market Research background and reviewed by our city manager.
A copy of the city manager's article and the survey question is attached as Exhibit 1.
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The City Outreach Process
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In June, several of our Board members were invited to an informal chat with our City Manager,
Director of Municipal Operations and Council member Gardner on the topic of trash outsourcing.
We shared some of the initial survey comments and concerns with city staff. Staff shared their
comments and goals for maintaining service levels, offering a recycle option and reducing costs
associated with labor, injuries and capital investment. Staff also indicated that this meeting was
just the beginning of a series of community outreach meetings that would be conducted prior to
finalizing their recommendations to council.
Following that meeting, we invited staff on several occasions to come and talk to a larger
audience of Corona del Mar residents and Board members, and each time the invitation was
declined. Their position was that results had to be presented to Council before the public. The
assurances that collecting public input through targeted outreach opportunities never
materialized.
We believed that resident comments were an important part of the process, providing insights
that could be used as part of staff's evaluation process. Therefore, we continued to report on
this topic to our members, and from time to time members would email or otherwise contact
their council members with their thoughts, concerns and preferences.
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The response rate, based on the 6100 household sampling, exceeded the requirement for a 99%
confidence level, +/- 10 points. We can therefore conclude with high confidence that these
percentages would be consistence across all of Corona del Mar households.
• 34% of the respondents preferred to keep the existing system
• 16% preferred outsourcing but no change to our collection model
• 47% preferred outsourcing with an option to recycle at home
The number of responses were fairly evenly split between CdM Village households and planned
community households.
Outsourcing with the recycle @ home option was slightly more preferred by those who live in
CdM Village than those in planned communities:
• 54% of Village households preferred this option
• 46% of planned community households preferred this option
The respondents' preference profile for the choice they made was:
• 68% had a strong preference for their choice
• 18% had a mild preference for their choice
• 12% selected no preference
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The open-ended "comments" question yielded some interesting results.
1. The overwhelming concept that came out of the comments is that people are generally
happy with the existing trash service. The support for the current workers is impressive.
In the case of our current trash service, there were essentially no complaints which means
the City is doing a great job and customer satisfaction is high. This lead to a lot of
comments that basically said "if it's not broke, don't fix it."
2. At the same time, there were a number of comments that supported recycling or wanted
to see additional recycling within the City. Some of the people leaving comments seem
to imply that the City doesn't do a good job at recycling because residents aren't required
to separate out their trash.
3. Many commented that cost data were needed to determine which option would provide
true cost savings. They felt it was difficult for them to choose between the options when
so little was known about the costs.
4. They also felt that the analysis of this proposed change was rushed and might not have
considered all options, such as a hybrid of our current municipal service which included
automation and home recycling.
A redacted copy of respondents' comments is attached as Exhibit 2.
SUMMARY
In spite of the lack of specific cost data at the time of the survey, a higher percentage of
respondents preferred outsourcing with the option to recycle at home. Those who live in the
Village preferred this option at a slightly higher rate than those who live in CdM planned
communities. Regardless of which option was chosen, 68% indicated that preference for their
choice was strong. Residents, without exception, strongly support our employee haulers, and
applaud their service, commitment and personal connections with their "customers". Many
respondents felt disadvantaged at not having cost information on which to base their opinion.
They also felt that not all options utilizing our existing municipal workers had been adequately
addressed.
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EXHIBIT 1
CdMRA Spring Newsletter Trash Article & Survey
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WHY TRASH, WHY NOW?
By Dave Kiff, City Manager
Sometimes I get out and do physical work with
some of our City staff members. Twice now, I
have worked with our dedicated (and fun) trash
collectors. I lasted just one three-hour shift each
time, begging off on the second shift "because I had a meeting."
I really was just tired and sore.
I was struck by these things:
• What a great service we provide. We collect almost
everything. Our employees know many residents by name;
that certain customers may need assistance; and
sometimes they even know if a customer is on vacation.
• How intricately they maneuver through some of our most
narrow streets and alleys.
• How physically impactful the job is — on backs, hips, knees,
shoulders.
• How sincere some residents are about trying to recycle.
Several folks would put out neatly -twined stacks of clean
newspapers next to the trash cans.
• How messy our system can still be. Alleyways, streets,
and yards end up with a lot of trash because of lost lids,
birds that get in cans on trash day, and "pickers."
Corona del Mar residents have asked why the City is even
considering changing such a well -liked system. Here's why:
• State law says we need to divert 75% of our waste stream
from landfills by 2020. The residential waste stream today
has about a 40-45% diversion rate. The commercial
stream is better, (almost all material from a construction
site, for instance, can be recycled) but that can vary based
on the year and the state of the economy.
• Our trash trucks are getting old. Yes, we have saved up
resources to replace them. The new ones are about
$250K a piece and are fueled with Compressed Natural
Gas (CNG).
• A good number of our 22 refuse collection employees are
at or near retirement age. It doesn't mean they will choose
to retire, but it means they could (so there's an unknown as
to our future staffing levels).
• Our City government still has a pension cost problem. Our
unfunded pension liability (what the City owes to the State
pension fund if paid today in one lump sum to cover all of
the promised pension benefits) is still big. Too big. The
best way to tackle the long-term pension problem is to
reduce the overall City payroll. It would be great if I could
switch everyone (including myself) to 401K -style plans —
but that's actually against the law in California. Go figure.
• Some people in town want to recycle. They don't like it
when I remind them that our recycling program involves
people picking through our trash stream at a Materials
Recovery Facility (MRF) where much of the recyclables
arrive ruined by being mixed in with dirty trash.
• Other residents are getting older, and wanting to know why
we don't allow cans with wheels.
In light of the above, the City Council has asked us to examine
our system and to ask private companies to respond to at least
two alternative proposals for trash.
As I see it: Path #1 would mirror the current system (take
nearly everything, no recycling, same cans, and put out as
many cans as you want). Path #2 would be what I'd call
"Automated Collection — But No Big Ugly Cans and You Don't
Have to Recycle." With this path, customers would choose
between small, medium, and large carts (the small ones have a
smaller footprint than the Ace Hardware round cans). They
could receive and put out as many as they wanted. Refuse
collectors would still take nearly everything. And you could — if
you wanted - ask for one clean recyclable cart (pick a size) and
it would be collected separately with the recyclables kept clean.
The big change would be that the carts allow a refuse collector
to pick the carts up mechanically instead of getting outside to lift
cans themselves. Automated service like that can serve 1,000
households a day, instead of the 400 households that manual
collection serves.
I've tried to summarize the most frequent questions I get about
this issue:
1. Would a new company hire our current refuse collectors?
We can require that companies offer jobs to our current
staff.
2. Is this all about cost savings? Not all, but certainly some.
Some of it is about meeting the 75% diversion goal. Some
of it is about even better service. If we could guarantee the
same quality of service or better at less cost, doesn't it
make sense to look at it?
3. How do you know there are any cost savings at all? We
don't know for sure. We won't know until proposals come
back from companies. We do know that a study we had
done in November 2012 said that cost savings could be
more than a million a year, or costs could actually be
higher, depending on the service model.
4. Could we contract out the same exact service we have
today — our cans, any number of cans, take everything we
put out like bags and big cardboard boxes? Yes.
5. How do you ever guarantee the same or better quality of
service? The right contract terms do that. You write
customer service standards into the contract, and require
adherence. If a company doesn't succeed, you end the
contract and consider other companies or take another
look at the in-house model.
6. My garage or side -yard doesn't fit the big automated can.
The automated carts used to be big, but now they're
smaller. The carts are either 35-, 65-, or 95 -gallons. The
35 -gallon cart, even with its wheels, has a smaller footprint
than the cans purchased at the local hardware store.
7. 1 don't want to recycle. My home isn't set up for separating
trash inside. That's what's nice about Path #2. Recycling
is voluntary. In Path #2 (described above), a household
could choose one "clean recyclables" cart or they could
pass entirely and keep with one or more trash only carts.
8. Doesn't recycling mean those many milk -crate bins that are
ugly and messy? They used to, but not anymore. The
most common system now is one cart per home that holds
all of your clean recyclables — plastics, glass, cans, paper,
cardboard, more.
9. What is "better" service than today? Better service might
be more free bulky -item pickup days, community "shred -it"
days, battery and paint disposal days, even a "concierge"
service for the elderly or disabled where a company gets
your trash cart from your sideyard, dumps it, and puts the
cart back.
10. How can a "one size fits all" approach work for such a
diverse place? It won't. Even if the community were to go
to an automated system, it probably can't be fully
automated everywhere. Where you have narrow streets or
alleys, the semi -automated model might be best. In this
model, a refuse collector gets out of the truck and moves
the carts to the back of the truck, where a small arm "flips"
the trash into the truck. At the very least, this saves the
refuse collector's back.
11. Could we have an automated service that the City ran and
staffed? Yes.
12. How does the cost of new trucks factor in? We have saved
up funds in our reserves for buying new trucks. A new
company coming in would be expected to provide its own
trucks as a part of the city contract. And yes, the company
would consider truck purchase, maintenance, fueling, and
replacement in the amount they bid.
13. What does an outside vendor do that could be more cost-
effective? In an automated system, it's picking up 1,000
homes a route instead of 400. In a straight comparison
with our own manual service, it is two things primarily — the
economies of scale associated with serving Newport Beach
along with other cities they might serve (maintenance,
management, truck purchases, staffing flexibility, more)
and the fact that most employers no longer offer defined
benefit pensions.
This is a hard issue to discuss, and many folks are concerned
about it. The feedback to date has been very helpful and
thoughtful, with most people recognizing that being good
stewards of the City and anticipating the 75% diversion future
means that we have to look carefully at all that we do, including
a service as well -liked as refuse collection. As always, your
comments back to us are welcomed.
i` CDMRA RESIDENT SURVEY
Over the course of the year, our members
contact us by phone and email with questions
and concerns on a variety of topics. As you
might have guessed, we have been getting many questions and
comments about our trash collection system. We asked Dave
Kiff to write the above article for our members. And one of
CdMRA's long-time members volunteered to work with Dave to
put together a survey question that we could include in our
Spring Newsletter. We want to thank both Dave and Tom for
taking the time to respond to our request on this important topic
that is on everyone's mind right now.
Now that you have read Dave's article above, won't you take a
few minutes and respond to the following survey. You have a
couple of options:
Take the survey on our website at www.Comra.org
Email your responses to Info(cDCdMRA.org
Mail your responses by USPS to CdMRA at PO Box
1500, Corona del Mar 92625
Results will be tabulated and reported on our website and in our
next members -only email newsletter.
Please respond no later than April 30, 2013.
THE QUESTION
The City needs to reduce payroll costs in order to reduce
pension liabilities. One way to do this is to transfer weekly trash
collection from the City to a private company ("outsourced"). At
present your trash is picked up whether or not it is in a trash
can. A private company may be able to pick up trash the same
way. Another way might allow you (but not require you) to sort
materials for recycling. Savings from outsourcing will be used to
maintain other important City services, and for infrastructure
such as roads. There are three options under study and we
would like your opinion.
YOUR ANSWER
Which would you prefer?
CHECK ONE BOX ONLY:
[ ] The present system: Managed by the City: cans OK but
not required. No savings for the City.
[ ] Outsourced: Outsourced but identical to the present
system: cans OK but not required. Savings for the City
[ ] Outsourced, twin tracks: Outsourced, trash in wheeled
carts (small, medium, or large), with voluntary recycling
(sorting) and green -waste separation (e.g. garden rubbish);
bags and other containers such as cardboard boxes set
beside the carts will also be picked up. There will be two
trucks picking up on the same day. Greater savings for the
City.
[ ] No preference
If a preference, why?
Is yours a strong or a mild preference?
[ ] Strong preference
[ ] Mild preference
One response per household please.
Please write in your first and last name or street address on the
line below:
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TRASH OUTSOURCING SURVEY
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