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3. JOINT MEETING WITH PARKS, BEACHES & RECREATION Park Development
COMMISSION TO REVIEW PARK DEVELOPMENT Opportunities
OPPORTUNITIES, FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AND POTENTIAL (62)
SCHEDULES.
City Manager Bludau utilized a PowerPoint presentation to discuss the site
descriptions, planning status, Parks, Beaches & Recreation Commission
(PB &R) recommendations, budget status, and issues/concerns for the
Newport Village, Sunset Ridge (CalTrans West), and Upper Bayview
Landing sites as outlined in the staff report. He stated that they are seeking
direction on the scope of the development and the priorities for development
on the sites.
Mr. Bludau stated that PB &R would like to survey potential users to the 12-
acre Newport Village site. He highlighted the park site development
recommendations listed in the staff report and reported that $35,000 has
been designated for the conceptual plan. He pointed out that the steep grade
along Avocado Avenue makes walking access difficult and would necessitate
extensive grading for vehicle access and parking. Additionally, preservation
of wetlands needs to take place. He added that the Board of Library
Trustees would like 100 parking spaces for library parking. Mr. Bludau
indicated that designating this site as permanent open space was discussed
but has never been done. Mayor Pro Tern Bromberg added that placing a
deed restriction on the property was also discussed but never implemented.
Mayor Ridgeway noted that PB &R suggests protecting views, but stated that
the City has a policy that only protects public views, not private views.
Assistant City Manager Wood indicated that the protection of public versus
private views is something that the City pays close attention to when
reviewing development projects on private property. However, in this case,
this is a City project and, if Council chooses to be concerned about this
during the planning of the park, it is within their prerogative. Council
Member Glover believed that, when the City is developing a park, there
should be a certain amount of respect given to the neighbors. She noted that
the City has tried not to plant trees in Castaways Park where it would
change residents' views and believed that this does not break the policy.
Mayor Pro Tern Bromberg noted that two of the three parks are in his
district and stated that he is also concerned about this. He agreed that the
City should not protect views, but believed that, as a City, it should not take
views away.
In response to Mayor Pro Tern Bromberg's question, Mr. Bludau indicated
that the Public Works Department oversees park development.
Regarding the 15 -acre Sunset Ridge site, Mr. Bludau discussed the site
location and planning status, and reported that $700,000 has been budgeted
this year for the lease and $600,000 in the next fiscal year. He added that
there is no budget for planning and construction. Mr. Bludau stated that the
site is difficult to access; the project needs to be coordinated with the
Banning Ranch development for access and parking; Newport Crest has view
concerns; there is methane gas underneath the site; the site has at least one
abandoned oil well; and there are earthquake faults underneath it.
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Regarding the 12 -acre Upper Bayview Landing site, Mr. Bludau stated that
it is located at Coast Highway and Jamboree Boulevard; is highly disturbed;
has coastal bluffs; and has a coastal grade on the slope. He indicated that it
also has to be determined if the site is a gnat- catcher habitat. He reviewed
the planning status in the staff report and indicated that a passive park
would be permitted. He stated that PB &R is proposing to make the park a
view park with a view of the Upper Newport Bay from Coast Highway; have
pedestrian and bicycle access only, have a trail from Coast Highway/
Jamboree to the Dunes; and have formal landscaping with native grasses
and plants. He reported that $33,390 is in the current budget for the
conceptual design; $340,000 for planning and construction (grading costs);
and $25,000 is encumbered for the environmental review. Mr. Bludau
reported that there is concern about having no safe access for cars;
remediation is needed from the County Health Department for clearance due
to the former gas station that was located on the site; there is drainage and
erosion under the coastal bluff; and there is a need to grade the coastal bluff
to obtain the desired use. He confirmed that CIOSA funds are available.
Jim Engelkee, EPT Landscape Architects, stated that they were hired by
The Irvine Company (TIC) to generate concept plans for the Upper Bayview
Landing and Newport Village parcels. Utilizing the conceptual drawings, he
stated that it is being proposed that the Newport Village site have 88
parking spaces and be developed with through- access from Avocado Avenue.
He indicated that the site will transition from an urban environment to an
open space /play area with native vegetation. He reported that the keys to
the site are its parking and its dual use, and its link between the park and
the library. He agreed that this would not be a destination point, but people
at the library may want to use it as a place to read or have lunch. Mr.
Engelkee reported that the design will mimic an architectural element found
along the front of the library, called pergola, which is a facade that is an
extension of the wall that is set away from the face of the walls. He
indicated that this element will be brought across the parking lot and lead
into the amphitheater. He stated that the facade would also turn at the
amphitheater and provide a background for the stage. He reported that the
amphitheater could have bench grading or graded turf. Further, trees will
be utilized that are contrasting to the parking lot trees to tie into the view
accessed from inside the library. He highlighted the circulation walk,
seawall, parking lot access, open space, and picnic tables as viewed on the
conceptual plans.
In response to Council questions, Mr. Engelkee believed that TIC maintains
architectural control over the project. He stated that the park is being
designed to be appealing to people who like both the natural and built
environments. He noted that, because of the play area, some of the trees will
not rise higher than the library. He indicated that the parking lot can be
expanded to 100 spaces but this would push into the grading. He reported
that they are proposing to conduct additional grading to soften some of the
slopes and tuck in the amphitheater. He believed that there would be export
material but clarified that their scope did not include cut and field analysis.
Regarding the Upper Bayview Landing conceptual plan, Mr. Engelkee stated
that Section A is the view corridor from Coast Highway /Jamboree to the
Eastbluff area, Section B is midway through the park, and Section C is from
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Coast Highway to Newport Dunes. He indicated that the park will be a
passive park with open play; the vegetation will be visually low so that sight
lines are maintained; the flow will be circular; and there will be five access
points. He stated that, in order to enter the bike trail, access would have to
occur offsite which would take the cooperation from the future senior
housing facility at the Lower Bayview Landing site. He confirmed that no
picnic benches or vehicle access is proposed on the site. He stated that a
grading goal was not set and added that he cannot provide a cut/fill or cost
analysis at this time. Mayor Ridgeway noted that there is one vehicular
viewscape at the major intersection.
Council Member Proctor reported that he owns property that overlooks the
Sunset Ridge site and asked when it would be appropriate to recuse himself.
City Attorney Burnham stated that, if he owns property within 500 feet of
the exterior boundary and was going to provide direction to staff on the
priorities relative to the scope of development or timing, it would be good to
recuse himself at this time. However, he indicated that he can be seated
with Council and participate in discussions about the other two sites.
The City Council joined the PB &R Commission at the conference table. In
attendance from the PB&R Commission were Chairman Skoro and
Commissioners Allen, Beek, Franklin, Tobin, and Englebrecht.
Chairman Skoro stated that he was first aware of the conceptual plans late
Friday night and contacted TIC on Monday, but it was too late to set up a
PB &R meeting. He indicated that he saw the plans and felt it was
worthwhile to have them presented to Council. He stated that he was
impressed by them, especially since most of the items were included in the
Newport Village plan that were mentioned in the many meetings. He
expressed the opinion that the Newport Village site is close to having a
concept.
Mayor Pro Tern Bromberg stated that he is looking at Newport Village as a
primary park site since it is centralized, will bring in a lot of people from
Newport Center during the lunch hour, and bring in people from Harbor
View and the library. He indicated that this is the first time the City has
had any type of concept for this park other than rough drawings. He
believed that the most significant issue now is to set up a schedule to look at
a concept, agree on it, review the cost, and decide whether to do the project.
Chairman Skoro stated that the amount of library parking was the item of
contention when the Newport Village site was discussed. He indicated that
they tried to solve the issue by letting the economics resolve it. He stated
that some concepts were developed and that Council will decide on the right
approach. Commissioner Franklin agreed that the library should be used to
its fullest, but suggested that the reasons for the parking shortage be
researched since the facility is fairly new. He expressed concern about using
public parkland to create extra parking. Commissioner Allen reported that
she chaired the park development subcommittee and stated that the site
belongs to the City, noting that TIC does not have a budget or a plan to do
the development for the City. She indicated that she was hoping Council
would tell them which parks to develop, in what order to develop them, and
what type of budget they may have. She reported that Newport Village now
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has two concept plans that are very similar. She stated that library parking
was a matter of money and noted that the Mr. Engelkee's conceptual plan
has space for about 69 cars and pushes the wall as far north as it can go
without extensive grading into the hill. Commissioner Beek noted that the
list of items that PB &R would like to see on the site were suggestions from
the community meetings. She stated that some of the comments were from
people concerned about the views from their homes across the street, not
from the Commission. She emphasized that the conceptual plan is not a
product of PB &R and that tonight is the first time she has seen it. She
believed that the purpose of today's study session is to find out which parks
to focus on and how the parks should be used. She stated that this will give
them better direction before any money is spent on conceptual drawings.
She indicated that they are not struggling with how to plan the park, but
with what PB &R and Council sees as its amenities, plus tying that in with
what the community expects the City to put into it.
In response to Mayor Ridgeway's questions, Commissioner Beek reported
that they had three or four meetings to discuss this issue specifically, and
other meetings where the public spoke on it. She believed that the same
group of people generally testify at the meetings, but once the City publicizes
what it intends to place on the sites, it will receive more public reaction.
Commissioner Allen disagreed that the same group of people speak on this
site, believing that 30 to 40 people have spoken. She added that the issue of
the view will probably need to be discussed at some point; however, it does
not have to come up with regard to this park since the views that will be
protected are public views from MacArthur Boulevard.
Jim Warren, 1201 Surfline Way, stated that he has looked at the drawings
that Stop Polluting Our Newport (SPON) presented, attended some of the
PB &R meetings, and saw the drawings tonight. He indicated that the
drawings do look very similar and that the residents would be more than
satisfied with them. He encouraged Council to move forward since the
project has been around for many years and, once Council changes, the
project is started over again. He believed that the $35,000 being allocated
for this is not enough and hoped that Council will budget more money.
Patrick Bartolic, Chair of the Board of Library Trustees, stated that the
Board supports providing parking for the library. He reported that the
facility, as a combined facility with the museum, was going to have about
720 parking spaces, but ended up with 210 spaces. He stated that the
Friends Meeting Room can legally hold 264 people and seats about 200
people, but its use is restricted to 100 people when the library is open. He
believed that the City has a facility that is heavily underutilized because of
the parking problem. He stated that he likes the plans that are being
presented today by TIC, but expressed concern that the additional 80+
parking spaces, when added to the library's current spaces, would still leave
the library short. He suggested expanding the parking at the base or adding
a small parking lot at the top of the park. Council Member Glover stated
that she would like to see a traffic study done for the library because the
parking problem may only be occurring during special events. She noted
that there is a tremendous cost involved with providing more than the 80
parking spaces and believed that the library will never be happy with the
parking situation. Mayor Ridgeway suggested that the Board of Library
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Trustees make a request for a parking study, including historical
background as to why it only has 210 parking spaces. He stated that they
should do this as soon as possible because the City will be moving forward on
the park developments. Commissioner Beek suggested that the study also
include whether every means has been exhausted to increase the existing
parking lot. She added that parking can possibly occur along Avocado
Avenue or suggested reconfiguring the current lot.
Jan Vandersloot complimented TIC for coming up with the scenario,
believing that it is close to what SPON was recommending. He stated that
they will be looking at the cost and believed that the City will find that
preserving more native plants on the property will make the project cheaper.
He indicated that he is not sure if the park needs as much turf grass or
parking, noting that Castaways and Upper Newport Bay Parks probably
only have 30 parking spaces. He believed that there needs to be more
creative parking solutions, like using the TIC parking lot across Avocado
Avenue. He emphasized that the library is not short of parking spaces, just
the Friends Meeting Room. Dr. Vandersloot believed that people could even
be shuttled back and forth from another parking lot during special events.
He agreed that this is a priority and added that the first thing that should be
done is to initiate the General Plan Amendment to convert the zoning to
open space. Mayor Ridgeway noted that Dr. Vandersloot suggested at a
previous hearing that parking can be considered for the library; however,
tonight he is suggesting not to allow library parking. Dr. Vandersloot
clarified that the park itself only needs 30 spaces. Further, when SPON
offered its plan, it recognized that library parking would be accommodated.
Harry Hamilton, Board of Library Trustee, asked the purpose of the
amphitheater. Mayor Ridgeway stated that there are numerous concepts for
the amphitheater, but believed that this needs to be addressed.
Dennis Baker expressed his support of the idea to connect the park to the
library. He indicated that he supports the SPON plan, but stated that it did
not focus on this connection.
Mr. Bartolic stated that his office is directly across the street from the
library and reported that the parking lots are full from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Mayor Ridgeway reported that the Sunset Ridge site is difficult because of
access and, without the Banning Ranch project moving forward, it makes it
more problematic. Commissioner Skoro reported that, not knowing what
will happen with Banning Ranch, PB&R has not had any meetings on this
issue. He added that the homeowners association in West Newport indicated
that they are receptive to meeting with them. Commissioner Franklin
stated that he was the chair of the subcommittee on skate parks two years
ago and believed that this location would be a good place for a skate park
since it would be a newly developed park where you can get the buy -in from
the people in the area and is isolated from homes.
Philip Bettencourt, 110 Newport Center Drive, stated that he is the planning
consultant for Banning Ranch and Taylor Woodrow Homes. He believed
that staff has all the technical data available relative to the proposed access
to the property. He stated that there has been a working assumption from
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the beginning that lateral access to the property would be the most
appropriate plan. He stated that any other access point is not likely,
especially if it is CalTrans' right -of -way, and would require Coastal
Commission approval under any circumstance. He indicated that he is not
sure if the property owner would consider constructing a leg of the access.
He added that it has been their assumption that PB &R and staff would be
looking for a more comprehensive planning solution to the property since
there are bluff setback, habitat, and mitigation issues.
Al Silcock, West Newport Beach Association, stated that he sent a letter to
Chairman Skoro on behalf of the Association which indicated that they feel it
is important that the park be developed with the interest of the community
in mind. He stated that their role is to help PB &R gain community access.
Jay Westphal stated that he and his wife live in Newport Crest which is
immediately adjacent to the Sunset Ridge property. He requested that
Council consider keeping the site as natural as possible because it is a
beautiful oasis of natural environment. He added that, by keeping it a
passive park, costs will be minimal.
Louise Greeley stated that she lives in Newport Crest and is on the steering
committee of the Orange Coast River Park. She recommended that, with the
uncertainty about the Banning Ranch development, it would be appropriate
to put this at the bottom of the priority list. She encouraged Council to move
forward with the other two sites.
Tom Hyans, President of the Central Newport Beach Community
Association, stated that they supported the acquisition of the property and
agreed with Ms. Greeley's suggestion to defer the development.
Jan Debay stated that she worked on the acquisition of the site for eight
years and emphasized that the City needs an active park, without lights, on
this side of the bay. She indicated that she spent so much time on this
because it would be a wonderful place for the children and families that live
in the area. She stated that Newport Crest has enjoyed their views over the
flat area, but believed that this site should not be set aside as nothing but
open space. She asked at what point the residents take priority. Mayor
Ridgeway stated that he has seen plans for an active park on this site with
no lights and agreed that an active park is desperately needed on this side of
the bay. He stated that this has been the plan for some time.
Regarding the Upper Bayview Landing site, Mayor Pro Tern Bromberg
reiterated Mr. Engelkee's statement that it is just going to be something that
is pretty. He noted that there will be no vehicle access to the site and
believed that since this is probably one of the most highly exposed vehicle
traffic areas in the City, the City probably should do something with it.
In response to Mayor Ridgeway's question, Former Public Works Director
Webb indicated that the intersection has 100,000 average daily trips.
Chairman Skoro stated that the biggest cost driver at this site is how much
dirt to remove, but noted that Big Canyon can utilize about 20,000 cubic
yards of the dirt. He indicated that, if some type of ground cover is used
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rather than turf, the City does not have to use the sprinkler system that was
estimated to cost $500,000.
Council Member Glover believed that less is more and stated that she would
like to only see grass on the site. Council Member Heffernan agreed that the
City should not do anything to the site and should not spend money to make
it look better for passing motorists.
Council Member Proctor noted that he has to recuse himself since he has
property overlooking Sunset Ridge, but encouraged PB &R to consider what
they will be doing and scope it out. He also encouraged Council to give
direction in that regard in order to play out conceptual ideas.
Commissioner Beek stated that PB &R was approached two years ago by
Evelyn Hart and Jean Watt with a study they were conducting for a
connecting trail that would tie in with Costa Mesa and Huntington Beach.
She stated that they discussed connecting some type of trail so people
coming from Lower Bayview Landing can follow along Coast Highway and
the other bike trails. She noted that there are a lot of bicyclists on the
weekends and that Upper Bayview Landing could be used as a resting place.
She stated that her direction was not to make it an elaborate show stop and
to avoid using it as a motorist vista.
Mayor Ridgeway reported that the site has contaminated dirt and that it
would have to be verified as clean before Big Canyon will take it.
Additionally, the City has looked at taking some of the dirt, even if it is
contaminated, to the Newport Ridge area since it will be used in a dump site
parking lot. Regarding irrigation, the City has shown itself to be
environmentally sensitive and would be willing to pay more for low -flow
sprinklers. He also emphasized that there be no over wash. He stated that
PB &R needs to take this direction tonight. City Manager Bludau stated that
one of the key issues for the Upper Bayview Landing and Newport Village
sites is how much of a natural state the City wants versus having grass. He
added that having grass means using sprinklers and adding in the cost for
maintenance. Mayor Ridgeway stated that drought resistant grass can be
installed. He noted that, if he built a house with a plot in the front, he would
plant on it to accentuate the property. He stated that he drives by the site
all the time, it is at the center of town, and he does not see leaving it in its
current state. He indicated that it needs some type of design.
Dr. Vandersloot stated that TIC can provide about $10 million for this site
for habitat restoration and trails. He added that there is also funding for the
Newport Village site. He recommended that the City consider the site in
relation to the ecosystem for the entire Upper Newport Bay. He stated that
the City should make the site more ecologically - friendly and recreate habitat
values which cost very little to maintain. During grading, he recommended
that the City stockpile the top soil because it is better for regrowing any kind
of vegetation. He agreed that this site should be lower on the priority list
than the Newport Village site.
Dennis Baker stated that this site is the terminus of a very long bicycle trip
that comes down the Santa Ana River. He indicated that hundreds of bikers
come down Backbay Drive and out near the Dunes. He agreed that this site
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would be an excellent place to tie in a bike trail and that it would be used
quite frequently for both pedestrian and bicycle access.
Commissioner Skoro reported that the Upper Bayview Landing site has
$340,000 allocated from CIOSA funds, and that the funds may be restricted
to this site.
Commissioner Allen believed the priorities should be Newport Village,
Upper Bayview Landing, and then Sunset Ridge along with the Banning
Ranch property. Council Member ONeil agreed with Commissioner Allen's
priorities. Commissioner Englebrecht believed that the Newport Village and
Upper Bayview Landing sites should be done at the same time. Council
Member Heffernan encouraged the creation of some type of bike, passive
use. He also believed that the Newport Village site should be done first and
that parking is a priority. He stated that people are not using the library,
noting that his children do not use it because there are no parking spaces.
Further, shuttling people will not happen. He encouraged the City to use
the CIOSA funds if they are available for the Upper Bayview Landing site.
- None.
ADJOURNMENT - 6:00 p.m.
The agenda for the Study Session was posted on January 16, 2002, at
3:15 p.m. on the City Hall Bulletin Board located outside of the City of
Newport Beach Administration Building.
Recording Secretary
Mayor
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