HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/08/2009 - Harbor CommissionNEWPORT BEACH HARBOR COMMISSION MINUTES
City Council Chambers
April 8, 2009
CALL TO ORDER 6:00 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL: Chairman Duffield, Commissioners Seymour Beek, John Corrough, Tim Collins,
Don Lawrenz, Karen Rhyne and Ralph Rodheim were in attendance. Staff:
Lome Arcese, Chris Miller and Shannon Levin
MINUTES: The minutes from the last meeting were approved.
ACTION ITEM
ACTION & APPEAL ITEMS
ITEM #1
Subject: General Harbor Commission Orientation - POSTPONED
ITEM #2
Subject:
Aerie Dock Project at 201 -207 Carnation Avenue
Issue:
Should the Aerie project applicants at 201 -207 Carnation Avenue be permitted to
replace the existing double U- shaped float with a dock system capable of berthing
8 vessels for residents and 1 guest side -tie
Discussion:
Chris presented the staff report on the project. Randy Mason with URS spoke on
the technical concerns. He said there are 10 boat "lanes" in that channel. The
boats berthed at Aerie will be moved to moorings or other places during storm
events with wave action of 2 feet or more. Bryan Jeannette spoke on the parking
issues, saying they will have at least 15 -23 additional parking spaces on -site,
beyond what is required by the Code.
• Commissioner Lawrenz presented a PowerPoint presentation on the project,
showing what he feels are issues with the project. The storm wave conditions
were only studied for the last five years, ignoring large storms of 1969 and 1990's.
These storms happened before that time and they did a lot of damage. A 100 ft
vessel may not have a safe mooring site in the case of a large storm event.
Storms will affect the movement of sand and affect the sand dollar population.
There are a lot of sand and shoals in this area and this needs more study.
Conditions need to be listed if sand studies show a problem, such as who is
responsible when dredging comes up. The 24 foot extension will go into public
waters and needs to have reflectors. This could start a building boom with all the
other slips in this area. The pier is to be set lower than usual attracting the sea
lions to rest upon. What about fire suppression, trash and sewage?
• Commissioner Beek said that the problem also is that the project will occupy space
that is now open. He said that there are no lanes in the harbor and the example
has no meaning. This is one of the narrowest points. We need to restrict the 24
foot overhang and can restrict the side tie. All residents don't have to have a slip.
19 new pilings will affect the sand movement.
• Commissioner Rhyne asked who will move the boats during storm events and
wave action. Are there moorings available and what are the other options if they
need to move? What happens between 1.5 to 2 feet? A 100 foot boat is too
massive and who will monitor the overhang?
• Commissioner Corrough said that this project is legally conforming and has not
been kept under the radar. The EIR has not found any significant exceptions and
has documented recommended mitigations. The project has changed with
previous requests. Every dock that sits out there now is in the same physical
situation, subject to storm events, that this dock will be in if it is built. We need to
set responsible improvements to the plans rather than just saying we are troubled
by this project; give specific guidance and constructive recommendations. The
proposed project has gone through multiple revisions. The unit to dock ratio is
representative of the rest of the harbor. The Commission does want new docks in
this harbor.
• Commissioner Collins said that we have given case by case exceptions for
extensions, but in this case there is no basis to extend beyond the Pierhead line.
• Commissioner Rodheim said that the Bulkhead and Pierhead lines of the 1930's
were made when the area was filled with sand and the City has not done its job in
redrawing the lines. To follow those lines as they are currently is not wrong. The
approval of all these large condo projects should not be happening and we may
end up looking like Miami Beach. He does not support the project going out
further than the neighboring docks. The surge tears up the boats and docks. He
would like to have larger slips but not in this location. They stick out too far. We
want the Planning Commission and City Council to see that the Harbor
Commission will not support this project. There is no right of residents to have the
right to have a pier.
• Chairman Duffield reminded everyone that storms go directly into our harbor as
designed by the Army Corps. Putting in a jetty would be a solution to stop that
action. There has been a lot of work put into the plan and we are not against new
docks, but we are boaters who use the harbor, so there is knowledge. The City
Council makes the ultimate decision, but we are boaters and can make
recommendations. Storm events do happen, so we need a plan that will work.
Why not come to the Harbor Commission to ask for advice, we would like to work
with the applicant. Perhaps restrict the time that boats may be dock there during a
storm season?
Public Comments:
• Kathleen McIntosh, 2495 Ocean Blvd., reminded everyone that the approval has
not been granted yet. They could have up to 12 boats on the docks. Public
access to the cove and marine outcropping would be restricted and maybe
eliminated. Shoaling is a problem in that area. Sand comes from that area and is
shoaling under the neighbors' docks. This project doesn't consider the problems
the 2 adjacent properties will have when they want to dock boats larger than 17
feet. She hopes Harbor Resources denies the request and requests that marker
buoys be put out for at least a month showing the lines of the project so everyone
concerned can see how far out into the channel it will go and what will be taken
away from them.
• Joe and Lisa Vallejo, who are not on the water and don't have a dock, wanted to
add their explanation as to why no one is out that far in the channel. 73 years ago
they thought this area would be built up with sand and even Channel Reef would
not be allowed to build now. Wants to declare 1936 Harbor Lines null. She cited
Municipal Code 17.50 Rules for Interpretation and Harbor Development Permits
which says the application shall be denied if it may interfere with the rights of other
permittees and oceanfront property owners and the application does not conform
to the policies and regulations of the certified Local Coastal Program. They feel
that the scenic and the visual outcropping will be covered up, but the applicant
said the boats will be coming and going and won't be a problem. How often does
that happen when all boats come and go all that often? Thank you for your
consideration and time, we ask that you do the best for Newport Harbor.
• Marilyn Beck, 303 Carnation Ave. This project has not been passed by the City.
There are many people with significant concerns with project size. The General
Plan requests that developers of this project take a conservative approach in their
projects. We worked hard to have responsible development included in the plan
Action:
ITEM #3
Subject:
Issue:
Discussion:
Action
ITEM #4
Subject:
Issue:
Discussion:
Public Comments
so we would have responsible development within the City. This is a super -sized
project, not conservative. I wish this meeting was out at the site to show you how
hard the wind blows and how destructive it can be. Boats have capsized and
docks have broken up.
John Connelly, owns and resides at 401 Avocado Ave. and owns 2317 Bayside
Drive, said if a 100 foot boat breaks free during wave action it will create significant
damage to the boats and properties in the area. The extension will be a bump in
the harbor that doesn't need to be there. No one receives prior notices of high
wave occurrences so boats can be moved to safety. Owners could be out of town
or unavailable to act. The boat parade could be impacted. This sets a precedent
for everyone to build their docks out further into the harbor.
Bud Razner, 2500 Ocean Blvd., is a supporter of the project and he say's most
people are. He was in the Harbor Patrol and knows the harbor. His work
experience has taught him to look at all things, weigh all the sides and don't
include personal feelings. Neighboring piers build to property lines so they may be
impacted by Aerie. Accidents will always occur and liability should not be passed
on to a new dock owner. Many people think they own the harbor. This project is a
quality, responsible one and is a tax maker. The project provides a water element
to clean the effluent that runs into the bay. The old structures need to be in place
and need to look for reasons why it will work, not won't.
The Commission provided comments on the environmental aspects of the dock
system, as well as its overall design. Commissioner Beek made an advisory
motion, "While not opposed to the expansion of the existing dock and its area and
capacity we believe the size and configuration of the proposed dock project would
create significant negative impact on, navigation and recreational boating in the
harbor ". The motion carried with all ayes. Harbor Resources will forward this
input to the Planning Commission and the City Council who will review the entire
project as a whole.
Newport Bay Marina at 2300 Newport Blvd. — Update
The Harbor Commission heard an oral report on the status of the Newport Bay
Marina located at 2300 Newport Boulevard.
The project was approved by Coastal Commission in February with special
conditions. It has a lot of public access. The little channel is there because Pickle
Weed grows there and need to be preserved. They hope to attract water related
business to attract tourists. They don't have any commitments but will be
consistent with the regulations. The buildings are protected from shipyard noise
and disclosures are required. The guest slips are tight for the smaller boats but
they will comply with the Fire Code. The commissioners felt it was a good,
responsible plan.
Receive and file.
Harbor Projects and Funding Projections
The City Council's Finance Subcommittee has requested an updated list of Harbor
Commission approved projects and funding projections in order to plan for the
future financial needs of the Harbor. The Harbor Commission reviewed the first
draft at the March meeting and requested staff to return to the Commission with an
updated draft for further review.
Chris was complimented on the new format for the report. Commission Lawrenz
added that there needs to be a column for ongoing projects, such as Eelgrass.
Mark Sites reminded everyone that fees will need to be raised to fund this.
Funding sources need to be identified. We don't want to create any friction with
the Army Corps as they already are giving us a hard time in approving dredging
permits. He asked why we need to dredge in West Newport.
Action: The motion was carried to advise staff to forward the attached document to the
Finance Committee with suggested changes.
SUB - COMMITTEE REPORTS:
• Mooring Subcommittee - Commissioner Duffield said that the boundaries are finalized and
they are still working on the transferability issue, but almost complete. Chris said that the
proposed CAD site may affect 20 moorings in area F. Commissioner Rodheim said that we
need to go over the rules for rental of moorings that the Harbor Patrol follows.
• Marketing — A new guide document is being produced and will be presented to the Harbor
Commission for comments.
• HAMP — The draft will be coming in May.
HARBOR RESOURCES UPDATE — Chris gave an update on the harbor. Please refer to the
following website: The update is posted at: http:// www .city.newport- beach.ca.uslhbr
(under Harbor Resources Updates).
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON SUB - COMMITTEE REPORTS OR HARBOR RESOURCES
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• Chuck South voiced a concern with the City's purchase of Lower Castaway, making it into a park.
The City is losing facilities for equipment loading and unloading. Properties that have been for
water related uses are being turned into condos or parks.
• Mark Sites said he supports what Chuck said and is also quite concerned. Commissioner
Corrough advised that those concerned need to voice their concerns to the City Council, since
they are the one that keep approving those projects.
COMMISSIONER'S ANNOUNCEMENTS OR MATTERS TO BE PLACED ON FUTURE
AGENDAS FOR DISCUSSION, ACTION OR REPORT
• Duffy will present the Wakeless Wonder at the next meeting.
RECOMMENDED TOPICS FOR FUTURE AGENDAS:
• Harbor Area Management Plan - Final
• Update from Anchor Environmental concerning Confined Aquatic Disposal option for Lower
Bay dredging
• Harbor Resources and water quality — staff's outreach efforts
• Evaluate fishing needs at the public piers
• Harbor Fee Study
DATE OF NEXT MEETING: May 13, 2009
City Council Chambers
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