HomeMy WebLinkAbout04/24/2003 - PB&R CommissionCITY OF NEWPORT BEACH
Ad Hoc Tree Committee of the Parks, Beaches and Recreation Commission
April 24, 2003- 7pm
1. Called to order at 7pm
ROLL CALL
Commissioners
Present: Allen, Skoro, Tobin
Staff: Marie Knight, Recreation 13 Senior Services Director
David Niederhaus, General Services Director
Dan Ohl, Deputy City Attorney
John Conway, Urban Forester
Teri Craig, Administrative Assistant
Public
Present: Barry Allen
Alan Beek
Linda Grant (BAS)
Virginia Herberts
Yvonne Houseels
Iris Kimmel (HVH)
Tess Lier (Cameo Shores HOA)
Diane Meyer (Harbor View Hills HOA)
Mark Truman
Jan Vandersloot (BAS /SPON)
2. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON- AGENDA ITEMS - None.
3. MINUTES - APRIL 10, 2003 Continued to next meeting of May 15, 2003.
4. REPORTS
a. Report from Deputy Citv Attornev regarding history of illegal tree removals and the
applicability of Ordinance 13.08
Deputy City Attorney Ohl commented on the history of prosecuting illegal tree
removals with the court system as well as pursuing them through the small claims
court process.
b. Report from General Services Director regarding current tree replacement policies and
an update on the City of Costa Mesa tree replacement program
Director Niederhaus reviewed the Costa Mesa policy as noted in the staff report. Urban
Forester Conway reviewed the survey of the cities of Irvine, Costa Mesa, Laguna Beach
and Huntington Beach.
c. Report from General Services Director regarding increased tree maintenance activities
including annual trimming and root pruning and root barrier programs.
Director Niederhaus reviewed current budget and policy for the annual trimming, root
pruning and root barriers.
d. Report from General Services Director regarding staff suggested changes to the G -1
Policy.
Director Niederhaus reviewed the staff report with the Committee. He stated that
even with tree removals that many more trees have been planted than removed. Some
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of the reasons for removals have been because of the wrong species being planted
years ago.
5. Public Testimony regarding the General Area of Specific Issues the Committee should
consider during its review
Linda Grant thanked Director Niederhaus and Urban Forrester John Conway for
their education and stated that she would like to give her time to Jan Vandersloot.
Jan Vandersloot distributed a memo and commented that changes made by staff to
the G -1 Policy were not too bad, but that a Tree Ordinance is needed to enforce
the policy and to have more certainty to what will happen to a tree. He
commented on the Costa Mesa 3 to 1 replacement policy of two 24" boxed and one
15' box tree is certainly better than one 36" tree, since that size tree is so hard to
find. He asked the Committee to remember that a small tree should not reforest a
large canopy tree. He stated that the Costa Mesa replacement policy is much more
effective. Mr. Vandersloot also commented that the notices for removal should be
at eye level when affixed to the tree.
Mr. Conway stated that they have had to move the notices higher as people
remove them on a frequent basis.
Jan Vandersloot also noted that special treatments to a tree must be done before
a Special Tree is ever removed.
Commissioner Skoro asked if Mr. Vandersloot's memo was a consensus from the 50
members of the Balboa Arbor Society.
Mr. Vandersloot stated that the BAS had not had a meeting yet and that the memo
was actually his personal comments.
Barry Allen stated that views are the most important issue to any homeowners with
a view. Any tree that blocks a view should be removed without discussion. He
commented that Newport Beach is a view city and not a tree city. The policy
should make it easier for homeowners to remove trees, this would cut down on
funds used by the City.
Chair Allen asked Mr. Allen to put his comments in writing and submit them to Teri
Craig, which he agreed to do.
Virginia Herberts stated that she totally disagrees with Mr. Allen and reminded the
Committee that trees actually enhance views.
Kathy Young, Cameo Shores Association, stated that the tree policy we have would
be more appropriate for eastern cities not for Newport Beach. When people think
of Newport Beach they think of views of the water, not trees. She commented that
most of the trees planted in the City are not natural. She recommended that
nothing over 8 feet be planted. The City should encourage views of the ocean as
trees do not benefit from this environment. She commented that this is not a tree
city and that the committee should rethink the whole reason to even have a tree
policy.
Tess Lier also commented that Newport Beach is not a tree city but a view city.
Land values are based on ocean views not tree views. She also questioned the
wisdom of replacing one tree with 2 or 3 when the replacement is being done
because of a problem. She commented that planting two 24" box trees is just
ridiculous. Ms. Lier stated that the City should allow the immediate areas to
decide what they want. Neighborhood association's should be the ones that
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determine what should and should not be planted. She also noted that the
homeowner should be considered not the tree.
Diane Meyer, Harbor View Hills South, stated that she represents a view
community. She stated that Laguna Beach and Huntington Beach have a one to one
replacement policy with using a 15 gallon replacement tree. She commented that
it is not always practical to replace a tree. She also stated that these decisions
should be left up to the homeowners association. The homeowner should want the
tree if they are going to be responsible for it. She stated that there should be a
different set of tree rules for view communities.
Iris Kimmel, Harbor View Hills Homeowners Association commented that the
homeowners association should control the trimming cycle. She commented that
they would not presume to select the type of trees to be planted, but should be
allowed to know when trimming is needed. She commented that the City can't
come into our community and tell us what we want. She commented that the
Association would bear the cost for supplemental tree trimming.
Yvonne Houssels, stated that she is speaking for 150 homes that are concerned
about views. She stated that if we are going to have a tree ordinance then a view
ordinance is necessary. . She stated that staff should look at the tree ordinances
of Palos Verdes and Laguna Beach. She commented that trees must be pruned
when they obstruct views.
Allen Beek reminded the Committee that the City seal does not include trees, only
water and sails. He commented that people should be able to decide if they even
want a tree planted in their parkway. He stated that public views must be
protected.
Mark Truman, Harbor View Hills, commented that he has a view property and why
should he be forced to take care of trees that he does not even want.
Jan Vandersloot stated that he has nothing against the view communities but that
types of trees should be considered before planting them. He commented that the
City has made the decision that they value trees. He commented that it is
intriguing to think that HOA's might be responsible for supplemental trimming thus
some of the costs could be shifted from the City. He stated that some of the
problems with the G -1 is that Roto Rooter costs should not be considered damage
as it is just normal wear and tear on sewer lines. He stated that the appeals
process should be reviewed and that the City should have more trees, as trees add
value to the overall look of the City.
Tess Lier stated that the G -1 Policy is not being undermined if there are only 2 -4
illegal removals a year. Views must be protected. Stringent rules cause more
problems.
6. Public Comments on Non - Agenda Items
None
7. Committee Direction to Staff
Chair Allen stated asked staff to categorize the comments presented tonight into a
report for the next meeting on May 15, 2003.
The Committee requested that the BAS submit to the Committee their formal response
outlining their concerns and issues with the current G1 policy by May 6, 2003 in order
to provide the Committee sufficient time to review their comments prior to the May
15 `" meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT - 8:45pm
Submitted by:
Teri Craig, Admin Assistant