HomeMy WebLinkAbout06 - Ad Hoc Tree Committee AgendaCity of Newport Beach
Parks, Beaches ft Recreation Commission
Ad Hoc Tree Committee
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 — 5pm
City Council Chambers
AGENDA
1. Call to Order - Chair Allen
2. Public Comments on non - agenda items within the limited subject matter jurisdiction
of the Ad Hoc Committee. Comments are limited to 3 minutes per person.
3. Reports/ Discussion regarding: Questions posed to the Committee by the City
Council:
a. Should the City Manager be the final decision authority in the removal of
Problem Trees and what should the overall appeal process be for any and all tree
removal decisions?
b. Should the City have two tree policies: one for view and one for non -view? How
would you define a "View Community "?
• c. Should all tree removals require replacement with a 36" box tree? Is this
realistic given space constraints and availability?
d. Should there be any changes to how removals and additions to the Special Tree
list take place, and if so, what is the process?
e. Should the policy include a goal to establish and maintain appropriate diversity
in tree species and age classes to provide a stable and sustainable urban forest
with a minimum tree inventory (i.e. 30,000 trees) that the City can reasonably
maintain in a healthy and non- hazardous condition and require that in approving
any tree removal or reforestation request the PBftR Commission shall find that
approval of the request will not adversely impact the overall inventory, diversity
and age of the City's Urban Forest.
4. Public testimony regarding items 3a - 3e above.
Testimony is limited to 3 minutes per person subject to extensions granted by the
Chair for persons who represent, and are speaking on behalf of every member of a
group
5. Committee discussion, revisions if desired, and straw vote(s) and /or final
recommendations to City Council on draft G -1 Policy
6. Adjourn
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To: Debra Allen, Chair
Parks, Beaches & Recreation Commission
City of Newport Beach
From: Robert A. Pastore
638 Cameo Highlands Drive
Corona del Mar
Subject: Comments on the agenda for your meeting on October 7'"
Date: October 5, 2003
Cc: Kathy Young, Tess Lier, Cameo G -1 Policy Review Committee
Cameo Board of Directors
City Council
Dear Commissioners,
I am a resident of Cameo Highlands which part of the Cameo Community Association. I am not an official
association representative in this matter but I would like to add my comments based on my experience with the
City when I was architectural committee chairman in the 1980's.
I have appeared at several of your meetings, several council meetings and have addressed two missives to you
regarding this topic.
I will add to those comments by addressing the queries by the City Council submitted to you for review and
action.
Should the City Manager be the final decision authority in the removal of Problem Trees and what
should the overall appeal process be for any and all tree removal decisions?
• In those areas represented by a legally established homeowners association, the wishes of the members as
expressed to the association officers and relayed to the City should be the guiding principle in tree trimming,
removal and reforestation for City trees within the community association perimeter.
As pointed out in my appearances before you, there are 142 community associations in this city and I
recommend that the Commission initiate a study to determine if they are legally established and what areas of
the city are so represented by constructing a map /chart showing the boundaries of the various entities.
The Commission and ultimately the Council should them give high regard to the wishes of community
associations with respect to city property within the boundaries of a particular association.
In the particular case of Cameo, which just passed its fortieth birthday, the entire association is probably in need
of removal and reforestation. The removal and reforestation should be guided by the desires of the association
as the primary principle coupled with the approved city tree list for tree replacement.
Should the City have two tree policies: one for view and one for non -view? How would you define a
'View Community"?
As the former chair of Cameo's Architectural Committee and responsible for developing view impairment
guidelines and also having been on the receiving end of lawsuits over views — including one that went to
conclusion at Orange County's Superior Court - I can relate that it is almost impossible to define view. "View" is
in the eye of the beholder.
I can say with some degree of certainty however that the area's real estate agents routinely define view for us.
Real estate ads flaunt "ocean view, "'White -water views," "blue water view," 'View of city lights," "vistas "
•"panorama, " etc. I have never seen an ad that touted a view of trees. Homes with a view command a higher
price which is ultimately reflected in higher property taxes. Therefore it is incumbent upon all parties to insure
that devaluation doesn't occur because of degradation of views.
The City, for its part, has attempted to define view. City policy G -3 states:
"B. Views. "View" means a range of sight including pleasing vistas or prospects or scenes. Views include, but
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are not limited to, the sight of geologic features, bays, oceans, skylines, bridges and parks."
Note the absence of any reference of a view of trees.
Using this as a definition of "view," one can accurately state then that the vast majority of the Cameo
Community Association is a "view" community. The City should be bound by the same constraints as any
Cameo homeowner with respect to their foliage within our boundaries.
Article V, Section 2 of Cameo's Covenants, Conditions and Restrictions stipulates:
"Landscaping Approval. No trees, bushes, shrubs, or plants shall be maintained upon any Lot which, without
clipping or pruning thereof, in the reasonable opinion of the Architectural Committee, unduly impede or detract
from the view of any Lot. The Architectural Committee shall have the right to require any Member to remove,
trim, top or prune any tree, bush, shrub or plant which, in the reasonable opinion of the Architectural Committee,
impedes or detracts from the view of any Lot."
So to answer the latter part of the question, yes, their should be two view policies — one for those areas
represented by a legally established homeowners association and one for those not so represented.
Should all tree removals require replacement with a 36" box tree? is this realistic given space
constraints and availability?
Council Policy G -6 Maintenance And Planting Of Parkway Trees already addresses the issue of container
size:
"3. Trees shall be a minimum container size of 36" box, unless market availability necessitates the planting of
24 "boxed specimens"
This policy is bolstered by City Ordinance which states:
Section 13.09.010 Parkway Trees Required.
• "The parkway tree shall be at least a thirty -six inch (36 ") box of the type, variety and /or species......"
This requirement, however, can be extremely costly. As previously stated, Cameo is long overdue for
reforestation. I would venture to guess that there are more than 600 trees in Cameo. Our association
president, appearing before a City Council meeting during a G -1 review, expressed this economic concern .
My recommendation would be to leave the size of the box out of G -1 and refer to policy G-6. Change G -6 by
adding after "market availability" and before `necessitates, the following - "or size of the project as determined
by the City Manager..."
Lastly, legally established homeowners associations, working in close harmony with the City's Urban Forester
and General Services Department will result in all parties being satisfied with the state of City trees located
within the boundaries of the community.
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Niederhaus, Dave
From: John Lindgren [falcon62 @adelphia.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:03 PM
To: debraeallen@yahoo.com
Subject: City Tree Policies
Ms Allen,
I was planning to attend tonight's meeting and speak
in behalf of the Cameo Association but my wife
reminded me that today is my birthday and a dinner
was planned. As a result, I will have to send this email
with the answers to the questions that have been
asked regarding the revisions to the City tree policy. A
member of our association, Mr. Pastore, provided me a
copy of his answers to your questions and I need to
• point out that his opinions do not necessarily reflect
the positions of the Cameo Association.
There are two major issues that Cameo would like to
see resolved.
1. Being able to have our City trees trimmed to roof
height to protect views
2. If a tree can no longer be trimmed for height or if it
is causing sidewalk /utility problems, we need an
affordable way to reforest (24 inch box tree) and a
fast, uncomplicated method to have the tree replaced.
The following paragraphs are Cameo's answers to the
• questions that were asked. If you have any further
questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at
949 -721 -1475 or falcon62@adelphia.net.
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Regards,
John Lindgren
President
Cameo Association
a. Should the City Manager be the final decision authority in the removal of
Problem Trees and what should the overall appeal process be for any and all tree
removal decisions?
This is a pretty high level for approving the removal of
a tree. Perhaps the Director of General Services
should be the approval authority and the City Manager
the appeal authority. Anyone objecting to a tree
removal should be given 10 days to file an appeal to
the City Manager.
b. Should the City have two tree policies: one for view and one for non -
view? How would you define a View Community?
Cameo is not opposed to having a split policy but we
think the exceptions that are included in the proposed
changes to the G -1 are sufficient to protect our
interests.
A view community could be defined as a legally formed
association of homeowners whose CC &Rs make
provisions for protecting homeowner views and a
. significant number of lots (over 50 %) have views.
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c. Should all tree removals require replacement with a 36in box tree?
is Absolutely not. In Cameo, the parkways are only 36
inches wide and contain sewer, electrical, gas, water
and cable. We would be willing to participate in
reforestation if the cost per tree was reasonable. The
cost of a 36 in tree was given as $750 and a 24 in tree
as $250. The policy should allow a 24 in box tree to
be planted in restricted areas such as parkways.
Is this realistic given space constraints and availability?
NO! See above.
d. Should there be any changes to how removals and additions to the
• Special Tree list take place, and if so, what is the process?
Since Cameo does not have any special trees and is
not likely to have any in the future, we don't feel that
we can take a position as an association on this
question. It would seem that this should be the
responsibility of the Urban Forrester.
e. Should the policy include a goal to establish and maintain appropriate
diversity in tree species and age classes to provide a stable and sustainable urban
forest with a minimum tree inventory (i.e. 30,000 trees) that the City can
reasonably maintain in a healthy and non- hazardous condition and require that in
approving any tree removal or reforestation request the PB &R Commission shall
find that approval of the request will not adversely impact the overall inventory,
diversity and age of the City's Urban Forest.
0 Cameo would be against this if it meant that the
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process for removing and replacing a tree would get
bogged down in some bureaucratic process of
maintaining diversity of tree species and sustainable
urban forests. I think that the above language is
impossible to define and would result in needless
arguments about what is appropriate diversity and
what a stable and sustainable urban forest really
means.
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Niederhaus, Dave
• From: Craig, Teri
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 10:28 AM
To: 'W. E. Mitchell'; Craig, Teri; iris; Bromberg, Steven
Cc: Niederhaus, Dave; Knight, Marie; Lomeli, Marcy; Conway, John; Debra Allen (Business Fax)
Subject: RE: G -1 response
Thank you for your comments - I will forward them to the Committee Members.
Teri Craig, Admin Assistant
Recreation & Senior Services Department
949 - 644 -3158
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From: W. E. Mitchell [mailto:wemitchell @cox.net]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 6:40 PM
To: TCraig @city.newport- beach.ca.us; iris; dandee @earthlink.net
Subject: G -1 response
The following reflects my responses to those issues to be discussed as outlined
in the agenda below.
City of Newport Beach
Parks, Beaches a Recreation Commission
Ad Hoc Tree Committee
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 - 5pm
City Council Chambers
AGENDA
1. Call to Order - Chair Allen
2. Public Comments on non - agenda items within the limited subject matter jurisdiction of the Ad
Hoc Committee. Comments are limited to 3 minutes per person.
3. Reports/ Discussion regarding: Questions posed to the Committee by the City Council:
a. Should the City Manager be the final decision authority in the removal of Problem Trees and
what should the overall appeal process be for any and all tree removal decisions: yes
• b. Should the City have two tree policies: one for view and one for non - view? No How would
you define a "View Community"?
c. Should all tree removals require replacement with a 36' box tree? No
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Is this realistic given space constraints and availability? No
• d. Should there be any changes to how removals and additions to the Special Tree list take place,
and if so, what is the process? Should be the decision of the
Urban Forester
e. Should the policy include a goal to establish and maintain appropriate diversity in tree species
and age classes to provide a stable and sustainable urban forest with a minimum tree
inventory (i.e. 30,000 trees) that the City can reasonably maintain in a healthy and non-
hazardous condition and require that in approving any tree removal or reforestation request
the PB &R Commission shall find that approval of the request will not adversely impact the
overall inventory, diversity and age of the City's Urban Forest. No
4. Public testimony regarding items 3a - 3e above.
Testimony is limited to 3 minutes per person subject to extensions granted by the Chair for
persons who represent, and are speaking on behalf of every member of a group
5. Committee discussion, revisions if desired, and straw vote(s) and /or final recommendations to City
Council on draft G -1 Policy
6. Adjourn
W. E. Mitchell, Board Member at Large
Harbor View Hills Community Association
2711 Harbor View Dr.
• Corona del Mar, CA. 92625
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Niederhaus, Dave
• From: Craig, Teri
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:14 AM
To: 'Steve Rizzone'
Cc: Knight, Marie; Niederhaus, Dave
Subject: RE: Oct. 7 G -1 Meeting
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Thanks for your comments, I will be glad to forward them along to the Committee.
Teri Craig, Admin Assistant
Recreation & Senior Services Department
949 - 644 -3158
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From: Steve Rizzone [mailto:steve @rizzone.net]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 4:30 PM
To: dandee @earthlink.net; TCraig @city.newport- beach.ca.us
Cc: iris
Subject: Oct. 7 G -1 Meeting
Please note my suggested responses to the following agenda items:
Thank you for your consideration
Stephen R. Rizzone
1101 Ebbtide Road
Corona del Mar, CA 92625
Member - Harbor View Home Owners Association, Board of Directors
City of Newport Beach
Parks, Beaches a Recreation Commission
Ad Hoc Tree Committee
Tuesdav, October 7. 2003 - 5Dm
City Council Chambers
AGENDA
• 1. Call to Order - Chair Allen
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Message
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2. Public Comments on non - agenda items within the limited subject matter
. jurisdiction of the Ad Hoc Committee. Comments are limited to 3 minutes per
person.
3. Reports/ Discussion regarding: Questions posed to the Committee by the City
Council:
a. Should the City Manager be the final decision authority in the removal of
Problem Trees and what should the overall appeal process be for any and all
tree removal decisions? yes
b. Should the City have two tree policies: one for view and one for non -
view? NO How would you define a "View Community'?
c. Should all tree removals require replacement with a 36" box tree? No
Is this realistic given space constraints and availability? No
d. Should there be any changes to how removals and additions to the Special
Tree list take place, and if so, what is the process? Should be the
decision of the Urban Forester
• e. Should the policy include a goal to establish and maintain appropriate
diversity in tree species and age classes to provide a stable and sustainable
urban forest with a minimum tree inventory (i.e. 30,000 trees) that the City
can reasonably maintain in a healthy and non- hazardous condition and
require that in approving any tree removal or reforestation request the PBFtR
Commission shall find that approval of the request will not adversely impact
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the overall inventory, diversity and age of the City's Urban Forest. No
4. Public testimony regarding items 3a - 3e above.
Testimony is limited to 3 minutes per person subject to extensions granted by
the Chair for persons who represent, and are speaking on behalf of every
member of a group
5. Committee discussion, revisions if desired, and straw vote(s) and /or final
recommendations to City Council on draft G -1 Policy
6. Adjourn
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